oct 2 report to members

Vaughn Simon wrote:
Then that would be your loss.

Vaughn,
I find this imposible to imagine! I dont know what passes for
acceptable in your neck of the woods, but where I am from (out in So.
Cal.) we have a pretty diverse group of pilots, and any business owner
who goes about publicly making fun of molestation victims and using
racical slurs would find himself with a rapidly diminishing customer
base.

Bermuda Soaring is one of the best
commercial soaring operations in the United States. Soaring needs commercial
operators like Frank and other entrepreneurs if it is going to survive.

Frank's conduct is doing the sport no favors.I dont know which is
worse, F.R.'s conduct, or the guys like you and Brian G. who are
cheering him on.If a prominent business owner and former SSA director
goes off like this, how do you think it looks to the casual R.A.S.
lurker?We ALL should be denouncing his behavior, not encouraging it.

Each one of them is putting their life and their future on the line for our sport,
which is hardly a growth market.

Could the fact that soaring is hardly a growth market be due in part to
the caste system L.L. made mention of?

I have worked at a commercial soaring operation long enough to know the
challenges involved, and I have been to Business school, so I know a shaky
business plan when I see one. I know too much to ever go into the soaring
business, so I try to be nice to those optimistic people who do.

Vaughn, You and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.If
you had to endure Frank's "Gutless Chicken****" speech in person, I
hardly think you would be nice to him.

Vaughn

K. Urban

KM

I think you better re-read my posts. I have been urging calm and civility,
and the means Frank Reid uses on her are not good. I may have siad I agreed
with some of his points, but not how he is going about it!!!

Brian G.
"KM" wrote in message
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Vaughn Simon wrote:
Then that would be your loss.

Vaughn,
I find this imposible to imagine! I dont know what passes for
acceptable in your neck of the woods, but where I am from (out in So.
Cal.) we have a pretty diverse group of pilots, and any business owner
who goes about publicly making fun of molestation victims and using
racical slurs would find himself with a rapidly diminishing customer
base.

Bermuda Soaring is one of the best
commercial soaring operations in the United States. Soaring needs
commercial
operators like Frank and other entrepreneurs if it is going to survive.

Frank's conduct is doing the sport no favors.I dont know which is
worse, F.R.'s conduct, or the guys like you and Brian G. who are
cheering him on.If a prominent business owner and former SSA director
goes off like this, how do you think it looks to the casual R.A.S.
lurker?We ALL should be denouncing his behavior, not encouraging it.

Each one of them is putting their life and their future on the line for
our sport,
which is hardly a growth market.

Could the fact that soaring is hardly a growth market be due in part to
the caste system L.L. made mention of?

I have worked at a commercial soaring operation long enough to know
the
challenges involved, and I have been to Business school, so I know a
shaky
business plan when I see one. I know too much to ever go into the
soaring
business, so I try to be nice to those optimistic people who do.

Vaughn, You and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.If
you had to endure Frank's "Gutless Chicken****" speech in person, I
hardly think you would be nice to him.

Vaughn

K. Urban

Brian Glick wrote:
KM

I think you better re-read my posts. I have been urging calm and civility,
and the means Frank Reid uses on her are not good. I may have siad I agreed
with some of his points, but not how he is going about it!!!

Brian, I did reread your post and here is a direct quote "I second what
Frank Reid said in just as strong of language".Kinda looks like you are
behind the guy and his conduct.Brian, I dont know what the standards
are in your part of the country, but it may come as a surprise to you
that this sport is not just limited to rich old white guys.I would
suggest that you distance yourself from racist ding dongs like Frank
Reid.

K Urban

KM

That was my one transgression that you caught, and if you still read it all,
you will see that I was trying to say that 5-BG was not me, as I have back
bone, will sign my posts, and, if I say it here on RAS, I will say it to
your face in in "just as strong of language as Frank Reid" I stand by those
comments, and I do not think this was inciting him to act as he has been. I
still urge calm with the situation, and confidence in the actions of those
trying to fix it.


Brian Glick
"KM" wrote in message
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Brian Glick wrote:
KM

I think you better re-read my posts. I have been urging calm and
civility,
and the means Frank Reid uses on her are not good. I may have siad I
agreed
with some of his points, but not how he is going about it!!!

Brian, I did reread your post and here is a direct quote "I second what
Frank Reid said in just as strong of language".Kinda looks like you are
behind the guy and his conduct.Brian, I dont know what the standards
are in your part of the country, but it may come as a surprise to you
that this sport is not just limited to rich old white guys.I would
suggest that you distance yourself from racist ding dongs like Frank
Reid.

K Urban