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Old October 9th 06, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Peter R.
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Javier wrote:

Ten years from now, when your 480 dies and requires parts, they may not
be available, and if they're not, the unit would be useless.


Do solid state chips fail with enough regularity for your scenario to be a
real risk?

--
Peter
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Old October 9th 06, 08:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Roy Smith
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In article ,
"Peter R." wrote:

Javier wrote:

Ten years from now, when your 480 dies and requires parts, they may not
be available, and if they're not, the unit would be useless.


I fully expect any GPS installed today to be as obsolete in 10 years as the
KX-170 is today.
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Old October 9th 06, 09:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Robert M. Gary
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Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
"Peter R." wrote:

Javier wrote:

Ten years from now, when your 480 dies and requires parts, they may not
be available, and if they're not, the unit would be useless.


I fully expect any GPS installed today to be as obsolete in 10 years as the
KX-170 is today.


"obsolete" as in not current technology or "obsolete" as in not
serviceable?

-Robert

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Old October 9th 06, 09:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Roy Smith
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In article .com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
"Peter R." wrote:

Javier wrote:

Ten years from now, when your 480 dies and requires parts, they may not
be available, and if they're not, the unit would be useless.


I fully expect any GPS installed today to be as obsolete in 10 years as the
KX-170 is today.


"obsolete" as in not current technology or "obsolete" as in not
serviceable?


The former. Obsolete has nothing to do with serviceable. Lots of KX-170's
are perfectly serviceable. They are also obsolete.
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Old October 9th 06, 09:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Bob Chilcoat
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Hell yes! Our KX-170B (installed as Nav/Comm 2) works much better than our
fancy new Narco with DME. Damn thing is bullet proof. Pics up stations 40
miles farther out than the Narco. Obsolete it may be, but it's sure
servicable.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


The former. Obsolete has nothing to do with serviceable. Lots of
KX-170's
are perfectly serviceable. They are also obsolete.



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Old October 9th 06, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Robert M. Gary
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Bob Chilcoat wrote:
Hell yes! Our KX-170B (installed as Nav/Comm 2) works much better than our
fancy new Narco with DME. Damn thing is bullet proof. Pics up stations 40
miles farther out than the Narco. Obsolete it may be, but it's sure
servicable.


Just don't remove it for any reason. There is a "self-destruct" feature
in the KX-170B. It is limited in the number of times it can be removed.
There is a turn limiter in the hold down screw that moves the tab that
holds it in the tray. At some point that limiter breaks off and the tab
that holds the radio in move up too far and crushes the frequency
rollers. There is no economic fix for that, and probably no parts to do
it. The solution is to buy an new radio.

-Robert

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Old October 10th 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ron Natalie
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Default Future of 480

Bob Chilcoat wrote:
Hell yes! Our KX-170B (installed as Nav/Comm 2) works much better than our
fancy new Narco with DME. Damn thing is bullet proof. Pics up stations 40
miles farther out than the Narco. Obsolete it may be, but it's sure
servicable.

The Mark 12D+ was an unserviceable piece of crap from the day it
was released. We had a ship in our club that was down more often
than it flew because it had a full NARCOLEPTIC stack in it.
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Old October 11th 06, 04:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Roy Smith
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Ron Natalie wrote:
The Mark 12D+ was an unserviceable piece of crap from the day it
was released.


Come on, Ron. Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think.
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Old October 9th 06, 10:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Robert M. Gary
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Roy Smith wrote:
In article .com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:
The former. Obsolete has nothing to do with serviceable. Lots of KX-170's

are perfectly serviceable. They are also obsolete.


Well, ok but maybe no one cares. If a 430 works as well as today who
cares if its not as good as the new stuff. However, the concern in this
thread is that it is likely that today's IFR GPSs will be
non-servicable much sooner than previous generations of radios.

-Robert

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Old October 10th 06, 12:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Peter R.
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Roy Smith wrote:

In article ,
"Peter R." wrote:

Javier wrote:

Ten years from now, when your 480 dies and requires parts, they may not
be available, and if they're not, the unit would be useless.


I fully expect any GPS installed today to be as obsolete in 10 years as the
KX-170 is today.


I agree, but please watch your quoting. You replied to my message, then
removed my quote but left my name as the author, making it look like I
authored someone else's words.

--
Peter
 




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