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Tom Young wrote:
Second that. The C150 I fly requires a lot less trim than the C172, to the point that I forget to use it sometimes. The 172 really doesn't let me forget. I ferried a C-172 with a coworker up to an engine shop a few years ago as one of a flight of two. When we got there, I got into the back of the other C-172. After we took off, I carefully noted when the pilot trimmed the aircraft, then leaned forward to engage the guys in the front in conversation. The pilot would fly along for a minute or two, then retrim. I'd lean back and wait a few minutes until he retrimmed yet again. Then I leaned forward to talk to the guys up front again.... making cracks about his apparent inability to hold altitude. Heh heh... I must have done it four or five times before the pilot caught on. G Lucky for me, there was no ejection seat in the C-172. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Tom Young wrote: Second that. The C150 I fly requires a lot less trim than the C172, to the point that I forget to use it sometimes. The 172 really doesn't let me forget. I ferried a C-172 with a coworker up to an engine shop a few years ago as one of a flight of two. When we got there, I got into the back of the other C-172. After we took off, I carefully noted when the pilot trimmed the aircraft, then leaned forward to engage the guys in the front in conversation. The pilot would fly along for a minute or two, then retrim. I'd lean back and wait a few minutes until he retrimmed yet again. Then I leaned forward to talk to the guys up front again.... making cracks about his apparent inability to hold altitude. Heh heh... I must have done it four or five times before the pilot caught on. G Lucky for me, there was no ejection seat in the C-172. I'd have pushed you out the door. I had a 260 lb friend who would wait patiently until I got the plane trimmed and then slam his seat all the way back. He did it so fast that I didn't see it coming. This was the same guy who completely shut an engine down on me once. I'm sure it was payback for something, I just can't remember what. |
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![]() "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message ... Tom Young wrote: Second that. The C150 I fly requires a lot less trim than the C172, to the point that I forget to use it sometimes. The 172 really doesn't let me forget. I ferried a C-172 with a coworker up to an engine shop a few years ago as one of a flight of two. When we got there, I got into the back of the other C-172. After we took off, I carefully noted when the pilot trimmed the aircraft, then leaned forward to engage the guys in the front in conversation. The pilot would fly along for a minute or two, then retrim. I'd lean back and wait a few minutes until he retrimmed yet again. Then I leaned forward to talk to the guys up front again.... making cracks about his apparent inability to hold altitude. Heh heh... I must have done it four or five times before the pilot caught on. G Lucky for me, there was no ejection seat in the C-172. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com About 3 months after I got my private certificate, I decided to go back for a little XC with the CFI who had actually been my CFI at the time of my checkride in order to just make sure I hadn't started to develop any early bad habits. As we were headed southeast from Phoenix, ATC called traffic overtaking us from our six o'clock and co-alt (ATC was not talking to that traffic...) Try as we might, we couldn't pick him up and eventually ATC suggests we descend. Right before I reach to retard the throttle and before I can push the nose down, my good old CFI racks the passenger seat back to the rear stop and just flops the seat flat trying to look up through the rear windows. We immediately gain about 150 feet which probably was not a good thing since we were pretty sure the conflicting traffic was above and behind us. Scared the hell out of me and I didn't let him hear the end of it all the way to our destination (and part of the way back, too...) Jay B |
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On 2006-10-10, Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote:
Heh heh... I must have done it four or five times before the pilot caught on. G Lucky for me, there was no ejection seat in the C-172. You are only a student in evil tricks, I'm afraid :-) When doing hood time for my instrument rating, I tended to do all the training at night, since it simulates IMC better when under the hood - no sunlight cues to tip you off. At this point I had ILS approaches nailed - I could keep the needles in the donut in the middle of the instrument. I was really proud on how I could make it look like the instrument wasn't even functional. My safety pilot - let's call him Paul because that's his real name and I don't want to protect the guilty - gave me lots of aggro that night in the name of training, but his best one was on the ILS. Passing the outer marker, I made the customary power and pitch changes and began to follow the glideslope. Then the plane started drifting high. So I corrected. Then it drifted low. I just couldn't nail the glideslope whatever I did. I was getting more and more distracted by this, when two lights shone through that bit of the windscreen the hood doesn't quite block, convincing my sense of balance that we were now in a 60 degree bank. Not only was I fighting spatial disorientation, I was all over the place on the glideslope, and now started to go all over the place on the localiser. At the decision height I was so glad to whip the hood up - I was starting to get overloaded. We did the missed approach, and flew home. When we were taxiing in, I grumbled about how terrible the ILS was - and how I couldn't figure out how I'd flown it so badly. Paul did not say a word. He just slid his seat back then forwards! The seat rails in a C172 are very long, so he could move an awful long way fore and aft - and he's quite a big guy... -- Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid. Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de |
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Dylan Smith writes:
When we were taxiing in, I grumbled about how terrible the ILS was - and how I couldn't figure out how I'd flown it so badly. Paul did not say a word. He just slid his seat back then forwards! The seat rails in a C172 are very long, so he could move an awful long way fore and aft - and he's quite a big guy... So what was his purpose in messing up the approach? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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On 2006-10-11, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dylan Smith writes: When we were taxiing in, I grumbled about how terrible the ILS was - and how I couldn't figure out how I'd flown it so badly. Paul did not say a word. He just slid his seat back then forwards! The seat rails in a C172 are very long, so he could move an awful long way fore and aft - and he's quite a big guy... So what was his purpose in messing up the approach? To cause a distraction. This was a training flight, and you have to be able to handle distractions in the real world - anything from trying to get down with failed instruments or equipment to a leaky door seal allowing rain to spray all over you. -- Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid. Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de |
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