Why are multiple engines different?

Neil Gould writes:

You don't understand much if you don't know what "...a commercial pilot
with a multi-engine rating..." means.

I understood that he had neither flown nor simulated this particular
scenario with this particular plane. Ratings don't matter.

This is totally irrelevant. Prior to an aircraft being certified -- as
would be all commercially available light twins -- tests have been
performed under all conditions.

So where is the official documentation for a Baron taxiing on one
engine, and what exactly does it say?

Finally, MSFS is not an aviation simulator, it is a game.

It's a simulator. In fact, many games are actually respectable
simulators under the hood.

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Recently, Mxsmanic posted:

Neil Gould writes:

You don't understand much if you don't know what "...a commercial
pilot with a multi-engine rating..." means.

I understood that he had neither flown nor simulated this particular
scenario with this particular plane. Ratings don't matter.

It's pretty clear that you don't have the tiniest clue as to what it takes
to get a rating. Any rating. One thing is for sure, you won't get any kind
of a rating with MSFS.

This is totally irrelevant. Prior to an aircraft being certified --
as would be all commercially available light twins -- tests have been
performed under all conditions.

So where is the official documentation for a Baron taxiing on one
engine, and what exactly does it say?

Get the POH and read it.

Finally, MSFS is not an aviation simulator, it is a game.

It's a simulator. In fact, many games are actually respectable
simulators under the hood.

Irrelevant. One difference between an aviation simulator and MSFS is, for
one thing, you can actually get credit for time in a real aircraft
simulator. If you even one hour's experience with a real simulator, you
might understand the difference pretty clearly.

Neil

Neil Gould writes:

Get the POH and read it.

I rather doubt that the POH says anything about taxiing on one engine.

Irrelevant. One difference between an aviation simulator and MSFS is, for
one thing, you can actually get credit for time in a real aircraft
simulator.

That's a bureaucratic difference, nothing more.

If you even one hour's experience with a real simulator, you
might understand the difference pretty clearly.

Apparently I can't hope to see it explained here.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

I rather doubt that the POH says anything about taxiing on one engine.

There is quite a bit of info about single engine performances
though. Nothing specific about taxiing with one engine I
must admit, but there are a lot of other things that are
omitted as well, for instance, take off performances
with the wings off, that sort of things.

As for training/rating; a lot of the training involves doing
things with an engine off (well, simulated engine failure,
or really switching it off depending on how adventurous the
instructor is and/or how close you are of a really big runway,
which we have around here -- I had plenty of fun at A****er);
Landing on one engine is something I have done a few times,
actually everytime you seat with an instructor (MEI), a
designated examiner (and in my case, I *also* did a 'medical
flight test' with a FAA inspector to upgrade my medical and
we picked the twin because it is more fun), they are all very
keen on messing with the engine controls :-), and just for
kicks we included taxiing out of the runway; with some
momentum, no problem -- I mean, you can get out of the runway
and wait for someone to tow you out of your misery without
getting in anyone's way; With some momentum, I can taxi out
of the runway with a glider for that matter. But once stopped,
or sufficiently slowed down, I guarantee you that you
won't go anywhere without pushing or towing it (in the
conventional light twin, well in the glider too)

A flight sim that has reasonably good models is Xplane,
which you may want to check out,

--Sylvain

Recently, Sylvain posted:

A flight sim that has reasonably good models is Xplane,
which you may want to check out,

Nah... Xplane is far too real for him.

Neil

Sylvain writes:

There is quite a bit of info about single engine performances
though. Nothing specific about taxiing with one engine I
must admit, but there are a lot of other things that are
omitted as well, for instance, take off performances
with the wings off, that sort of things.

Well, the advantage of simulation is that you can easily try these
things.

But once stopped,
or sufficiently slowed down, I guarantee you that you
won't go anywhere without pushing or towing it (in the
conventional light twin, well in the glider too)

Increase the throttle very slowly, and wait for the plane to start
rolling. You won't spin around. If the eccentric thrust is weak
enough that the nose gear can compensate for it, you should be able to
taxi, but it will be an extremely slow taxi, and it will take a long
time to get rolling.

A flight sim that has reasonably good models is Xplane,
which you may want to check out,

I still haven't been told what's wrong with the MSFS model.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

I still haven't been told what's wrong with the MSFS model.

actually you have been told, repeatedly, but you apparently
refuse to believe it.

--Sylvain

Sylvain writes:

actually you have been told, repeatedly, but you apparently
refuse to believe it.

No. I've seen assertions that it is wrong, but no illustrations.

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