Need proof of trainin in Air Force Base in VA in 1969

"Flatus Ohlfahrt" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:19:27 GMT, Daryl Hunt wrote in
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:23:41 -0400, Ogden Johnson III
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Charlie Wolf wrote:

Can any of you regulars here in r.a.m.n. help with this
request??

Or point him in the right direction?
Regards,

On 10 Oct 2006 11:09:34 -0700, "msvuh"
wrote:

My friend, Mr. Ho, is currently petitioning for
resettlement in the US. In his last interview, he was
asked to present a Certificate of Completion for a
Helicopter Maintenance and Repairman in an Air Force
Base in Virginia in 1969. Mr. Ho does not remember the
name of the school. What he remembers is from the base
to Washington D.C. it's about one day bus drive. Mr. Ho
does not have any paperwork associated with the training
he had in the US for that year as they were all burned
in 1975 when South Vietnam collapsed for fear of
persecution.

I hope you can gear me to the right direction. If you
need further information. Please contact me via email
or telephone (310) 223-0370

If this is not the right group to post this message,
please provide a correct name of the group. I will not
bother in the future.

Toi hieu tieng Vietnam. Cam on.

msvuh

If he's sure it was an Air Force Base, and in Virginia,
then Langley AFB is about the only choice. Down in the
Hampton Roads/Norfolk/Tidewater area, it is only a 3-,
4-hour max drive from DC. Even the commercial bus doesn't
take but about 5-, 5-1/2 hours. AFAIK, Langley has
generally been about fighters and R&D - missiles, mainly -
and not helos. But there may be some reason they could
have done helo maintenance training there during the VN
war for some reason that would make sense only to the Air
Farce.

Helicopter Maintenance and Repairman? AF in 1969 had few
helicopters. Training for helo pilots had already moved to
Ft. Wolters under the Army. The term "Repairman" would
never be used for a maintainer in the USAF.

While I don't know enough to correct nor confirm your Helo
training locations, I do know that in 1969 and 1970,
Specialtists were called Repairmen.



Maintenance school would be a "tech school" and all of
those were under Air Training Command at TTCs (Tech
Training Centers)--places like Lowry, Chanute, Lackland,
Keesler. Certainly not at Langley and I can't quickly
think of another AF installation in VA.

If this guy were in the US, I might be thinking "wannabe".

The use of Repariman tells me he just might not be a
wannbe.

BTW, Ed, you had repairman working on your F-4 and you
survived(g)

Nah, the AF had maintenance specialists.

Take a look at this cite. The people are called repairmen.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...b/deberry.html


301X1 Navigation Systems Repairman
421X1 Aircraft Propeller Repairman
421X2 Pneudraulics Repairman
421X3 Aerospace Ground Equipment Repairman

422X0 Instrument Repairman
422X1 Mechanical Accessory Repairman
422X2 Egress Systems Repairman
423X0 Aircraft Electrician
424X0 Fuel Systems Repairman
431X0 Helicopter Maintenance Repairman
431X1A Aircraft Maintenance Repairman
(recip)

431X1C Aircraft Maintenance Repairman (Jet)
432X0 Jet Engine Repairman
432X1 Reciprocating Engine Repairman
461X0 Munitions Specialist
462X0 Weapons Specialist

You are using todays terms for yesterday.



The fella would most likely have had his fingerprints on file in
one of our national data bases. Maybe a friendly police
establishment could give some help.

Daryl Hunt wrote:
"Flatus Ohlfahrt" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:19:27 GMT, Daryl Hunt wrote in
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:23:41 -0400, Ogden Johnson III
wrote:

Charlie Wolf wrote:

Can any of you regulars here in r.a.m.n. help with this
request??

Or point him in the right direction?
Regards,

On 10 Oct 2006 11:09:34 -0700, "msvuh"
wrote:

My friend, Mr. Ho, is currently petitioning for
resettlement in the US. In his last interview, he was
asked to present a Certificate of Completion for a
Helicopter Maintenance and Repairman in an Air Force
Base in Virginia in 1969. Mr. Ho does not remember the
name of the school. What he remembers is from the base
to Washington D.C. it's about one day bus drive. Mr. Ho
does not have any paperwork associated with the training
he had in the US for that year as they were all burned
in 1975 when South Vietnam collapsed for fear of
persecution.

I hope you can gear me to the right direction. If you
need further information. Please contact me via email
or telephone (310) 223-0370

If this is not the right group to post this message,
please provide a correct name of the group. I will not
bother in the future.

Toi hieu tieng Vietnam. Cam on.

msvuh

If he's sure it was an Air Force Base, and in Virginia,
then Langley AFB is about the only choice. Down in the
Hampton Roads/Norfolk/Tidewater area, it is only a 3-,
4-hour max drive from DC. Even the commercial bus doesn't
take but about 5-, 5-1/2 hours. AFAIK, Langley has
generally been about fighters and R&D - missiles, mainly -
and not helos. But there may be some reason they could
have done helo maintenance training there during the VN
war for some reason that would make sense only to the Air
Farce.

Helicopter Maintenance and Repairman? AF in 1969 had few
helicopters. Training for helo pilots had already moved to
Ft. Wolters under the Army. The term "Repairman" would
never be used for a maintainer in the USAF.

While I don't know enough to correct nor confirm your Helo
training locations, I do know that in 1969 and 1970,
Specialtists were called Repairmen.



Maintenance school would be a "tech school" and all of
those were under Air Training Command at TTCs (Tech
Training Centers)--places like Lowry, Chanute, Lackland,
Keesler. Certainly not at Langley and I can't quickly
think of another AF installation in VA.

If this guy were in the US, I might be thinking "wannabe".

The use of Repariman tells me he just might not be a
wannbe.

BTW, Ed, you had repairman working on your F-4 and you
survived(g)

Nah, the AF had maintenance specialists.

Take a look at this cite. The people are called repairmen.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...b/deberry.html

I looked at it. I think I am getting closer to my goal each day. Thank
you.

Naja

301X1 Navigation Systems Repairman
421X1 Aircraft Propeller Repairman
421X2 Pneudraulics Repairman
421X3 Aerospace Ground Equipment Repairman

422X0 Instrument Repairman
422X1 Mechanical Accessory Repairman
422X2 Egress Systems Repairman
423X0 Aircraft Electrician
424X0 Fuel Systems Repairman
431X0 Helicopter Maintenance Repairman
431X1A Aircraft Maintenance Repairman
(recip)

431X1C Aircraft Maintenance Repairman (Jet)
432X0 Jet Engine Repairman
432X1 Reciprocating Engine Repairman
461X0 Munitions Specialist
462X0 Weapons Specialist

You are using todays terms for yesterday.



The fella would most likely have had his fingerprints on file in
one of our national data bases. Maybe a friendly police
establishment could give some help.

"msvuh" wrote in message
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Daryl Hunt wrote:
"Flatus Ohlfahrt" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:19:27 GMT, Daryl Hunt wrote in
:


"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:23:41 -0400, Ogden Johnson III
wrote:

Charlie Wolf wrote:

Can any of you regulars here in r.a.m.n. help with this
request??

Or point him in the right direction?
Regards,

On 10 Oct 2006 11:09:34 -0700, "msvuh"
wrote:

My friend, Mr. Ho, is currently petitioning for
resettlement in the US. In his last interview, he was
asked to present a Certificate of Completion for a
Helicopter Maintenance and Repairman in an Air Force
Base in Virginia in 1969. Mr. Ho does not remember the
name of the school. What he remembers is from the base
to Washington D.C. it's about one day bus drive. Mr. Ho
does not have any paperwork associated with the training
he had in the US for that year as they were all burned
in 1975 when South Vietnam collapsed for fear of
persecution.

I hope you can gear me to the right direction. If you
need further information. Please contact me via email
or telephone (310) 223-0370

If this is not the right group to post this message,
please provide a correct name of the group. I will not
bother in the future.

Toi hieu tieng Vietnam. Cam on.

msvuh

If he's sure it was an Air Force Base, and in Virginia,
then Langley AFB is about the only choice. Down in the
Hampton Roads/Norfolk/Tidewater area, it is only a 3-,
4-hour max drive from DC. Even the commercial bus doesn't
take but about 5-, 5-1/2 hours. AFAIK, Langley has
generally been about fighters and R&D - missiles, mainly -
and not helos. But there may be some reason they could
have done helo maintenance training there during the VN
war for some reason that would make sense only to the Air
Farce.

Helicopter Maintenance and Repairman? AF in 1969 had few
helicopters. Training for helo pilots had already moved to
Ft. Wolters under the Army. The term "Repairman" would
never be used for a maintainer in the USAF.

While I don't know enough to correct nor confirm your Helo
training locations, I do know that in 1969 and 1970,
Specialtists were called Repairmen.



Maintenance school would be a "tech school" and all of
those were under Air Training Command at TTCs (Tech
Training Centers)--places like Lowry, Chanute, Lackland,
Keesler. Certainly not at Langley and I can't quickly
think of another AF installation in VA.

If this guy were in the US, I might be thinking "wannabe".

The use of Repariman tells me he just might not be a
wannbe.

BTW, Ed, you had repairman working on your F-4 and you
survived(g)

Nah, the AF had maintenance specialists.

Take a look at this cite. The people are called repairmen.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...b/deberry.html

I looked at it. I think I am getting closer to my goal each day. Thank
you.

He might have been mistaken about his location. Look into Wicheta Field, TX
as well. IN 69-70, I do know they were doing Chopper training for Foriegn
Troops at that time. I don't know if there was any maintenance training but
there was assuredly flight training.


Just remember, if it isn't on the internet, some will lead you to believe it
isn't so.

"Daryl Hunt" wrote in message
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He might have been mistaken about his location. Look into Wicheta Field,
TX as well. IN 69-70, I do know they were doing Chopper training for
Foriegn Troops at that time. I don't know if there was any maintenance
training but there was assuredly flight training.


Wicheta Field? Perhaps you mean Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, TX?

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:43:03 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"Daryl Hunt" wrote in message
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He might have been mistaken about his location. Look into Wicheta Field,
TX as well. IN 69-70, I do know they were doing Chopper training for
Foriegn Troops at that time. I don't know if there was any maintenance
training but there was assuredly flight training.


Wicheta Field? Perhaps you mean Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, TX?

There was assuredly Undergraduate Pilot Training at Sheppard in
'69-70, but no rotary wing. The USAF helicopter training operation was
moving (as someone pointed out) from Stead AFB which was deactivating
to Ft. Wolters (as I mentioned) and Ft. Rucker, where the Army became
the sole source for USAF/USA rotary wing qualification.

Sheppard might have been an operational training site for USAF
helicopters, but I don't know for sure. HH-3 and HC-53 was done AFAIK
at Hurlburt. I don't think HH-43 "Pedro" was in the inventory any
longer. UH-1 training had been Stead and then Rucker. (Those were the
missile silo service helicopters.)
Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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There was assuredly Undergraduate Pilot Training at Sheppard in
'69-70, but no rotary wing. The USAF helicopter training operation was
moving (as someone pointed out) from Stead AFB which was deactivating
to Ft. Wolters (as I mentioned) and Ft. Rucker, where the Army became
the sole source for USAF/USA rotary wing qualification.

Sheppard might have been an operational training site for USAF
helicopters, but I don't know for sure. HH-3 and HC-53 was done AFAIK
at Hurlburt. I don't think HH-43 "Pedro" was in the inventory any
longer. UH-1 training had been Stead and then Rucker. (Those were the
missile silo service helicopters.)


You're mistaken. USAF helicopter pilot training moved from Stead to
Sheppard in late 1965. Stead AFB closed the following year. In 1969 all
USAF helicopter training was done at Sheppard AFB. Beginning in late 1970
instruction was provided to USAF students at Fort Wolters in the UH-1, they
would then go to Sheppard for combat crew training. In mid 1971 the USAF
ceased helicopter instruction at Sheppard, and USAF students began
training at Fort Rucker.

http://usafhpa.org/histschool.html

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:43:03 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"Daryl Hunt" wrote in message
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He might have been mistaken about his location. Look into Wicheta
Field,
TX as well. IN 69-70, I do know they were doing Chopper training for
Foriegn Troops at that time. I don't know if there was any maintenance
training but there was assuredly flight training.


Wicheta Field? Perhaps you mean Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, TX?

There was assuredly Undergraduate Pilot Training at Sheppard in
'69-70, but no rotary wing. The USAF helicopter training operation was
moving (as someone pointed out) from Stead AFB which was deactivating
to Ft. Wolters (as I mentioned) and Ft. Rucker, where the Army became
the sole source for USAF/USA rotary wing qualification.

Sheppard might have been an operational training site for USAF
helicopters, but I don't know for sure. HH-3 and HC-53 was done AFAIK
at Hurlburt. I don't think HH-43 "Pedro" was in the inventory any
longer. UH-1 training had been Stead and then Rucker. (Those were the
missile silo service helicopters.)

I believe there were a few "Foriegn" trainees. The running joke was that
they sometimes didn't bother to land before the pilot exits. Who they were
and where they came from, I have no idea. To tell you the truth, it sounds
more like Iranians the way they were acting.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Daryl Hunt" wrote in message
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He might have been mistaken about his location. Look into Wicheta Field,
TX as well. IN 69-70, I do know they were doing Chopper training for
Foriegn Troops at that time. I don't know if there was any maintenance
training but there was assuredly flight training.


Wicheta Field? Perhaps you mean Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, TX?

Thanks, brain fart.

"Daryl Hunt" wrote:

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Take a look at this cite. The people are called repairmen.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...b/deberry.html


301X1 Navigation Systems Repairman
421X1 Aircraft Propeller Repairman
421X2 Pneudraulics Repairman

ROTFLMAOWTIME!!!!!

Only the Air Farce could come up with "Pneudraulics."

--
Ogden Johnson
(ne OJ III)
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and dot the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

"Ogden Johnson III" wrote in message
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ROTFLMAOWTIME!!!!!

Only the Air Farce could come up with "Pneudraulics."


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pneudraulic