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Old October 14th 06, 05:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Emily writes:

Maybe I'll do that tonight!!!!! Except I can't play MSFS without
crashing it anyway, so that's probably a bad experiment.


What do you find difficult about flying in MSFS?

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Old October 15th 06, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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It's not real. It's not the same as flying. There's no pressures on the
seat of the pants, or feeling of movement, or wind noise. I don't do
well on MSFS either. But why would I want to? It'll only get you from
Point A to Point A.
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

Maybe I'll do that tonight!!!!! Except I can't play MSFS without
crashing it anyway, so that's probably a bad experiment.


What do you find difficult about flying in MSFS?

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Old October 15th 06, 08:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Gene Seibel writes:

It's not real. It's not the same as flying. There's no pressures on the
seat of the pants, or feeling of movement, or wind noise. I don't do
well on MSFS either. But why would I want to? It'll only get you from
Point A to Point A.


I consider that an advantage, as the objective is to fly, not to get
somewhere. Going from one real-life airport to another would be a
huge inconvenience unless I actually had a legitimate reason to
travel, which I virtually never do (I hate travel).

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Old October 15th 06, 09:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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But it's not flying. It's making pictures on a computer screen.
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gene Seibel writes:

It's not real. It's not the same as flying. There's no pressures on the
seat of the pants, or feeling of movement, or wind noise. I don't do
well on MSFS either. But why would I want to? It'll only get you from
Point A to Point A.


I consider that an advantage, as the objective is to fly, not to get
somewhere. Going from one real-life airport to another would be a
huge inconvenience unless I actually had a legitimate reason to
travel, which I virtually never do (I hate travel).

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Old October 15th 06, 10:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Gene Seibel writes:

But it's not flying. It's making pictures on a computer screen.


Sitting in an aircraft isn't flying, either. The aircraft flies; you
sit and watch. Only birds actually fly.

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Old October 15th 06, 11:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gene Seibel writes:

But it's not flying. It's making pictures on a computer screen.


Sitting in an aircraft isn't flying, either. The aircraft flies; you
sit and watch. Only birds actually fly.

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From the American Heritage Dictionary...

Fly n. flew, flown, flying, flies -intr. 1. To engage in flight,
especially: a. to move through the air by means of wings or winglike parts.
b. To travel by air: "We flew to Dallas." c. To operate an aircraft or
spacecraft. (all other definitions don't relate to the thread)

Flight n. 1.a. The motion of an object in or through a medium, especially
through the earth's atmosphere or through space. b. an instance of such
motion. c. the distance covered in such motion. 2.a. The act or process of
flying through the air by means of wings. b. The ability to fly. (rest of
the definitions don't relate)

Aircraft n., A machine of device such as an airplane, a helicopter, a
glider, or a dirigible, that is capable of atmospheric flight.

I don't see any mention of computer simulations in these definitions So, it
would appear that according the American Heritage Dictionary, actual real
life flying of an airplane is considered "flying" and operation of a
computer simulation is NOT. I know this is not the FAA's definition, but
considering the FARs around the logging of simulator time, and even the fact
that there is a "simulator" column in my logbook, don't think the FAA
considers using a simulator "flying" either. i.e. I can't use a simulator
to maintain VFR currency or pass a flight review. And the last time I
checked a personal computer is not "capable of atomospheric flight", unless
you do something like throw it out a window, and then which isn't even
"controllable flight" and you can really ride it and the computer is then
"flying" and not you.

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Old October 15th 06, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Wade Hasbrouck wrote:
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And the
last time I checked a personal computer is not "capable of atomospheric
flight", unless you do something like throw it out a window


As I think someone pointed about before, strap a big enough engine on it
and anything's possible.
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Old October 16th 06, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Wade Hasbrouck writes:

I know this is not the FAA's definition ...


And so do I, which makes the purpose of the post a bit mysterious.

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