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Old October 15th 06, 02:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Neil Gould writes:

Talking about --how did you put it -- "...local pilots doing foolish
things...", this should be pretty close to the top of your list. And, it
will get you into an interesting but short discussion with the FAA, should
you survive that decision.


Sure ... in a real aircraft. But in simulation it's okay (as long as
you realize that it's only acceptable in simulation). I figure the
ATC has way too many aircraft going around, so my revenge on the
simulator is simply to ignore the incompetent controller and continue.

Yesterday I took off into a 110 kt headwind blowing precisely down the
runway towards me. I left the ground within a few seconds, drifting
gently backwards, then forwards. Landing was easy, with a ground
speed of almost zero. That experiment would not be possible or
practical in real life.

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Old October 15th 06, 03:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Recently, Mxsmanic posted:

Neil Gould writes:

Talking about --how did you put it -- "...local pilots doing foolish
things...", this should be pretty close to the top of your list.
And, it will get you into an interesting but short discussion with
the FAA, should you survive that decision.


Sure ... in a real aircraft. But in simulation it's okay (as long as
you realize that it's only acceptable in simulation). I figure the
ATC has way too many aircraft going around, so my revenge on the
simulator is simply to ignore the incompetent controller and continue.

And, it's precisely that attitude that is the focus of the point I was
making. As PIC, you have no idea of the "competence" of the controller, or
the basis for instructions that you receive. Unless you are unable to
execute those instructions, you are expected to do so. If you are unable
to execute a go-around, you should have notified ATC about it well ahead
of time so that they could plan accordingly. So, you've made a number of
bad decisions based on bad assumptions and then executed a maneuver that
could get your license pulled, should you survive it. You are missing the
purpose of even MSFS in this case, and that's not too impressive.

Neil


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Old October 15th 06, 03:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Neil Gould writes:

If you are unable
to execute a go-around, you should have notified ATC about it well ahead
of time so that they could plan accordingly.


The simulator does not give me the option of refusing.

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Old October 15th 06, 09:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Recently, Mxsmanic posted:

Neil Gould writes:

If you are unable
to execute a go-around, you should have notified ATC about it well
ahead of time so that they could plan accordingly.


The simulator does not give me the option of refusing.

It also doesn't make the plane unable to execute the instruction. Ergo,
you should have gone around.

Neil



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Old October 15th 06, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Neil Gould writes:

It also doesn't make the plane unable to execute the instruction. Ergo,
you should have gone around.


Instructions are flexible in simulation. If I followed all
instructions slavishly, I'd occasionally be stuck for eternity on the
ramp because the simulator doesn't give me the option of asking to
taxi and take off.

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