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Old October 14th 06, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default How often do you have to go around?

mike regish writes:

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.


I tried it, but he was in a Cessna (152, or whatever comes with MSFS),
and I was in a Baron, and I was uneasy about trying to slow too much
when so close to the ground and so close to landing myself. I ended
up passing beneath him as he slowed. Although it's possible to ignore
collisions in MSFS, I went around and spent another five or ten
minutes flying a pattern of sorts and coming in again (I need practice
flying patterns, anyway, I guess).

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Old October 14th 06, 10:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
mike regish writes:

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.


I tried it, but he was in a Cessna (152, or whatever comes with MSFS),
and I was in a Baron, and I was uneasy about trying to slow too much
when so close to the ground and so close to landing myself.


You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.
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Old October 14th 06, 11:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Ron Natalie wrote in
:

You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.


Dang Ron,

Didn't you know that the lower plane has the right of way in REAL life and
you should give way to a plane passing under you on final

*tongue in cheek*.

Allen
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Old October 15th 06, 10:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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A Lieberma wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote in
:

You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.


Dang Ron,

Didn't you know that the lower plane has the right of way in REAL life and
you should give way to a plane passing under you on final

The rules say overtaking aircraft must give the right of way.
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Old October 15th 06, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Ron Natalie wrote:
A Lieberma wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote in
:
You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.


Dang Ron,

Didn't you know that the lower plane has the right of way in REAL life
and you should give way to a plane passing under you on final

The rules say overtaking aircraft must give the right of way.


Sometimes the overtaking aircraft can't. Sorry, but when I'm on final
in some planes I can't slow down for the jerk in front of me doing 50 knots.
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Old October 15th 06, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Emily wrote:


Sometimes the overtaking aircraft can't. Sorry, but when I'm on final
in some planes I can't slow down for the jerk in front of me doing 50
knots.


Then it's required that you give way in some other fashion. The
jerk doing 50 knots on final may be operating as fast as prudently
safe. Just as Mister MixedPickles in his computer game, it is
imcumbant on you to manouver to give the right of way to those
how have it.
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Old October 15th 06, 11:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Ron Natalie wrote:
Emily wrote:


Sometimes the overtaking aircraft can't. Sorry, but when I'm on final
in some planes I can't slow down for the jerk in front of me doing 50
knots.


Then it's required that you give way in some other fashion.


How, when tower expects me to stay on final? I'm not trying to be a
bitch, but I can't tell you how many times I'm going into a large
airport with someone in front of me out for his Sunday stroll. Class B
and C towers generally don't want a following aircraft breaking off an
approach because the aircraft in front is so slow.
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Old October 16th 06, 03:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Margy Natalie
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Default How often do you have to go around?

A Lieberma wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote in
:


You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.



Dang Ron,

Didn't you know that the lower plane has the right of way in REAL life and
you should give way to a plane passing under you on final

*tongue in cheek*.

Allen

My 1st, supervised, student solo a twin cut me off on short final by
passing below me. I, stupid student, thought I had done something
wrong, until on the ground when my instructor starting using language
I'd never heard him use before.

Margy
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Old October 16th 06, 04:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default How often do you have to go around?

That wasn't at OAK by any chance with MKF?



"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
...
|A Lieberma wrote:
| Ron Natalie wrote in
| :
|
|
| You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I
believe it
| is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you
are making
| in the game, but you should hang further back in faster
aircraft.
| If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the
FAA on
| short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.
|
|
| Dang Ron,
|
| Didn't you know that the lower plane has the right of
way in REAL life and
| you should give way to a plane passing under you on
final
|
| *tongue in cheek*.
|
| Allen
| My 1st, supervised, student solo a twin cut me off on
short final by
| passing below me. I, stupid student, thought I had done
something
| wrong, until on the ground when my instructor starting
using language
| I'd never heard him use before.
|
| Margy


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Old October 15th 06, 12:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Ron Natalie writes:

You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182).


Heck, I couldn't even see the Cessna until it was about a quarter-mile
away. I spent a long time searching for it.

I think one problem is that I was not flying the pattern correctly.
The Cessna pulled in front of me. I'm still not clear on how long
each leg of the pattern is supposed to be, although I'm very gradually
getting better at flying a pattern without wandering all over the
place.

I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.


Right now I'm just trying to fly a pattern correctly by myself. Once
I master that, I'll try to worry more about other aircraft in the
pattern.

If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.


That's the advantage of simulation. Mistakes in simulation cost
nothing.

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