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Old October 15th 06, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Ron Natalie wrote:
A Lieberma wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote in
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You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.


Dang Ron,

Didn't you know that the lower plane has the right of way in REAL life
and you should give way to a plane passing under you on final

The rules say overtaking aircraft must give the right of way.


Sometimes the overtaking aircraft can't. Sorry, but when I'm on final
in some planes I can't slow down for the jerk in front of me doing 50 knots.
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Old October 15th 06, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Emily wrote:


Sometimes the overtaking aircraft can't. Sorry, but when I'm on final
in some planes I can't slow down for the jerk in front of me doing 50
knots.


Then it's required that you give way in some other fashion. The
jerk doing 50 knots on final may be operating as fast as prudently
safe. Just as Mister MixedPickles in his computer game, it is
imcumbant on you to manouver to give the right of way to those
how have it.
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Old October 15th 06, 11:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Ron Natalie wrote:
Emily wrote:


Sometimes the overtaking aircraft can't. Sorry, but when I'm on final
in some planes I can't slow down for the jerk in front of me doing 50
knots.


Then it's required that you give way in some other fashion.


How, when tower expects me to stay on final? I'm not trying to be a
bitch, but I can't tell you how many times I'm going into a large
airport with someone in front of me out for his Sunday stroll. Class B
and C towers generally don't want a following aircraft breaking off an
approach because the aircraft in front is so slow.
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Old October 16th 06, 01:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Emily wrote:

Ron Natalie wrote:

Emily wrote:


Sometimes the overtaking aircraft can't. Sorry, but when I'm on
final in some planes I can't slow down for the jerk in front of me
doing 50 knots.



Then it's required that you give way in some other fashion.



How, when tower expects me to stay on final? I'm not trying to be a
bitch, but I can't tell you how many times I'm going into a large
airport with someone in front of me out for his Sunday stroll. Class B
and C towers generally don't want a following aircraft breaking off an
approach because the aircraft in front is so slow.


Tell the tower you are unable to maintain separation due the speed of
the aircraft in front and request a 360. They'll either approve it or
give you an alternative.

Matt
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Old October 16th 06, 03:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Emily wrote:



Then it's required that you give way in some other fashion.



How, when tower expects me to stay on final?




Tower will fix the problem and right of way rules are of no concern.
Just because I made you first doesn't mean you will necessarily stay
first. If that plan doesn't work you may be the one to go around if
that is the most efficient way to do things.


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Old October 16th 06, 04:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Newps wrote:


Emily wrote:



Then it's required that you give way in some other fashion.



How, when tower expects me to stay on final?




Tower will fix the problem and right of way rules are of no concern.
Just because I made you first doesn't mean you will necessarily stay
first. If that plan doesn't work you may be the one to go around if
that is the most efficient way to do things.


Well, I wasn't really speaking of right of way, more of being second
behind a much slower aircraft. And you resequencing me is fine, but
keep in mind that 1) the PIC is responsible for the safety of the
flight, 2) pilot is responsible for see and avoid in VMC, and 3) in the
interests of staying alive, I don't always trust ATC to keep me out of
the back of someone else.
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Old October 16th 06, 04:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default How often do you have to go around?

Right.



"Emily" wrote in message
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| Newps wrote:
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| Emily wrote:
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| Then it's required that you give way in some other
fashion.
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| How, when tower expects me to stay on final?
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| Tower will fix the problem and right of way rules are of
no concern.
| Just because I made you first doesn't mean you will
necessarily stay
| first. If that plan doesn't work you may be the one to
go around if
| that is the most efficient way to do things.
|
| Well, I wasn't really speaking of right of way, more of
being second
| behind a much slower aircraft. And you resequencing me is
fine, but
| keep in mind that 1) the PIC is responsible for the safety
of the
| flight, 2) pilot is responsible for see and avoid in VMC,
and 3) in the
| interests of staying alive, I don't always trust ATC to
keep me out of
| the back of someone else.


 




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