North Korea's Air Force and The Bomb

"Matt Whiting" wrote:


I think pre-emptively attacking Iran has proven to be a huge mistake and I
believe that North Korea would love nothing more than to sucker us into
something similar there. The folks that have a dog in this fight are
China, South Korea, Japan, etc. Let them police this one.



Amen.

--
Dan

"Fiction was invented the day Jonah arrived home and told his wife
that he was three days late because he had been swallowed by a
whale."
-Gabriel Garcia Marquez

When did we attack Iran?
Attacking Iraq got Libya to surrender several ship loads of
nuke weapons materials to the USA. It is better to strike
preemptively than to wait till they can put up a "fair
fight" the object is victory and not stalemate.



"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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|
| "Matt Whiting" wrote:
|
|
| I think pre-emptively attacking Iran has proven to be a
huge mistake and I
| believe that North Korea would love nothing more than to
sucker us into
| something similar there. The folks that have a dog in
this fight are
| China, South Korea, Japan, etc. Let them police this
one.
|
|
|
| Amen.
|
| --
| Dan
|
| "Fiction was invented the day Jonah arrived home and told
his wife
| that he was three days late because he had been swallowed
by a
| whale."
| -Gabriel Garcia Marquez
|
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
When did we attack Iran?
Attacking Iraq got Libya to surrender several ship loads of
nuke weapons materials to the USA. It is better to strike
preemptively than to wait till they can put up a "fair
fight" the object is victory and not stalemate.

Haven't you been watching CNN? :-)

In that case, we should be attacking Venezuala, Russia, China, Iran,
Syria, which one's did I forget?


Matt

The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to get a
reputation.
The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
won't take casualties. OBL has said so.

We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria will
take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is coming
from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only way
to win is to either fight a big war with those two terrorist
nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will be
unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling is OK
with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel don't
matter.

So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their runways,
all their operational military airplanes, their ammo dumps
and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
capable of defending their border at the 38th.

Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their borders
and we win.

Or we can continue to do what we are doing, waiting until
they do develop WMD/nukes and then we get what they want,
destruction of the world so their "leader" can rise from the
dead/well.

Only the fanatics in the Middle East matter, the others are
all businessmen now.



"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| When did we attack Iran?
| Attacking Iraq got Libya to surrender several ship loads
of
| nuke weapons materials to the USA. It is better to
strike
| preemptively than to wait till they can put up a "fair
| fight" the object is victory and not stalemate.
|
| Haven't you been watching CNN? :-)
|
| In that case, we should be attacking Venezuala, Russia,
China, Iran,
| Syria, which one's did I forget?
|
|
| Matt

Jim Macklin wrote:
The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to get a
reputation.
The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
won't take casualties. OBL has said so.

We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria will
take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is coming
from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only way
to win is to either fight a big war with those two terrorist
nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will be
unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling is OK
with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel don't
matter.

So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their runways,
all their operational military airplanes, their ammo dumps
and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
capable of defending their border at the 38th.

Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their borders
and we win.

You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians and Muslims have
been fighting in the middle east for millenia. You think we're going to
put that all to rest in a few weeks by bombing NK to smitherens? That
is too funny.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Jim Macklin wrote:
The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to get a reputation.
The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that won't take
casualties. OBL has said so.

We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria will take notice.
Since most of our trouble in Iraq is coming from Syria and Iran, not
local Iraqi citizens, the only way to win is to either fight a big war
with those two terrorist nations OR slap NK down with enough force that
they will be unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling is OK
with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel don't matter.

So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their runways, all their
operational military airplanes, their ammo dumps and power plants that
supply military bases and nuclear plants. That could all be done in a
week-end with conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
capable of defending their border at the 38th.

Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their borders and we win.

You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians and Muslims have
been fighting in the middle east for millenia.

1.384 Millenia (Give Or Take...)

Jay B

No, just a few days. NK is an easy target for B2 and B1
with JDAM and ALCM from B52s. We also have the F117. They
have few targets, we have lots of tactical fighters to
support the RoC army along the 37th parallel. They have
"stepped across" the line and re-opened the war that has
been on "hold" since 1953.

Iran and Syria are fighting episode 1,000 in the Crusades
and it is for their old Muslim religion, their power in
Europe and to make the whole world into their image. They
do not believe that the west has the balls to actually fight
and win. They are willing to win in baby steps. We bluster
and impose sanctions.

Why do they care.

Solve the NK problem while it is an easy military problem
and won't require we use out nukes and will prevent them
from ever using nukes.

Then when we tell IRAN that they are going too far and need
to comply, we won't need to nuke them either. But if they
are still not sure, we shock and awe with 98% conventional
and one megaton on something forty miles from Tehran at
midnight, maybe a powerplant or a military base.

Syria will do what Libya did, tuck their heads and
surrender.

It might bring peace for 100 years and during that time,
education and a good life will alter the Muslim doctrine so
they will become a peaceful religion.

There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and if only 1%
are evil, vicious baby killers, it is a big army. Many
surveys have put the number at over 10% or 150 million
potential suicide bombers, terrorists and supporters. Let's
wait a decade so it can be a "fair fight" and they have a
chance to destroy the western world and the USA.

NOT


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to
get a
| reputation.
| The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
| won't take casualties. OBL has said so.
|
| We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria
will
| take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is
coming
| from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only
way
| to win is to either fight a big war with those two
terrorist
| nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will
be
| unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling
is OK
| with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel
don't
| matter.
|
| So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their
runways,
| all their operational military airplanes, their ammo
dumps
| and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
| plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
| conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
| capable of defending their border at the 38th.
|
| Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their
borders
| and we win.
|
| You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians
and Muslims have
| been fighting in the middle east for millenia. You think
we're going to
| put that all to rest in a few weeks by bombing NK to
smitherens? That
| is too funny.
|
|
| Matt

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"Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:bxWYg.5033$XX2.407@dukeread04...
| No, just a few days. NK is an easy target for B2 and B1
| with JDAM and ALCM from B52s. We also have the F117.
They
| have few targets, we have lots of tactical fighters to
| support the RoC army along the 37th parallel. They have
| "stepped across" the line and re-opened the war that has
| been on "hold" since 1953.
|
| Iran and Syria are fighting episode 1,000 in the Crusades
| and it is for their old Muslim religion, their power in
| Europe and to make the whole world into their image. They
| do not believe that the west has the balls to actually
fight
| and win. They are willing to win in baby steps. We
bluster
| and impose sanctions.
|
| Why do they care.
|
| Solve the NK problem while it is an easy military problem
| and won't require we use out nukes and will prevent them
| from ever using nukes.
|
| Then when we tell IRAN that they are going too far and
need
| to comply, we won't need to nuke them either. But if they
| are still not sure, we shock and awe with 98% conventional
| and one megaton on something forty miles from Tehran at
| midnight, maybe a powerplant or a military base.
|
| Syria will do what Libya did, tuck their heads and
| surrender.
|
| It might bring peace for 100 years and during that time,
| education and a good life will alter the Muslim doctrine
so
| they will become a peaceful religion.
|
| There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and if only 1%
| are evil, vicious baby killers, it is a big army. Many
| surveys have put the number at over 10% or 150 million
| potential suicide bombers, terrorists and supporters.
Let's
| wait a decade so it can be a "fair fight" and they have a
| chance to destroy the western world and the USA.
|
| NOT
|
|
| "Matt Whiting" wrote in message
| ...
|| Jim Macklin wrote:
|| The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to
| get a
|| reputation.
|| The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
|| won't take casualties. OBL has said so.
||
|| We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria
| will
|| take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is
| coming
|| from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only
| way
|| to win is to either fight a big war with those two
| terrorist
|| nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they
will
| be
|| unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling
| is OK
|| with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel
| don't
|| matter.
||
|| So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their
| runways,
|| all their operational military airplanes, their ammo
| dumps
|| and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
|| plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
|| conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are
perfectly
|| capable of defending their border at the 38th.
||
|| Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their
| borders
|| and we win.
||
|| You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians
| and Muslims have
|| been fighting in the middle east for millenia. You think
| we're going to
|| put that all to rest in a few weeks by bombing NK to
| smitherens? That
|| is too funny.
||
||
|| Matt
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:YtVYg.5025$XX2.3034@dukeread04...
: The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to get a
: reputation.
: The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
: won't take casualties. OBL has said so.
:
: We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria will
: take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is coming
: from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only way
: to win is to either fight a big war with those two terrorist
: nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will be
: unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling is OK
: with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel don't
: matter.
:
: So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their runways,
: all their operational military airplanes, their ammo dumps
: and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
: plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
: conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
: capable of defending their border at the 38th.
:
: Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their borders
: and we win.
:
: Or we can continue to do what we are doing, waiting until
: they do develop WMD/nukes and then we get what they want,
: destruction of the world so their "leader" can rise from the
: dead/well.
:
: Only the fanatics in the Middle East matter, the others are
: all businessmen now.
:
:


Yea, and let's reinstate the draft so we have enough bodies to throw into this action. We need to occupy the land and
lock it down...

Why do we need to have a draft, to be sure that we have a
dysfunctional army? Why do we need to occupy Iran or Syria?
Once we, the USA, assert our power, thee will be plenty of
nations wanting to join in, even France and Spain will
discover their choice is either become totally unimportant
to the world or a partner.


".Blueskies." wrote in
message .. .
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:YtVYg.5025$XX2.3034@dukeread04...
| : The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to
get a
| : reputation.
| : The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
| : won't take casualties. OBL has said so.
| :
| : We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria
will
| : take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is
coming
| : from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only
way
| : to win is to either fight a big war with those two
terrorist
| : nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will
be
| : unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling
is OK
| : with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel
don't
| : matter.
| :
| : So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their
runways,
| : all their operational military airplanes, their ammo
dumps
| : and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
| : plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
| : conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
| : capable of defending their border at the 38th.
| :
| : Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their
borders
| : and we win.
| :
| : Or we can continue to do what we are doing, waiting
until
| : they do develop WMD/nukes and then we get what they
want,
| : destruction of the world so their "leader" can rise from
the
| : dead/well.
| :
| : Only the fanatics in the Middle East matter, the others
are
| : all businessmen now.
| :
| :
|
|
| Yea, and let's reinstate the draft so we have enough
bodies to throw into this action. We need to occupy the land
and
| lock it down...
|
|