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Old October 16th 06, 04:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default How often do you have to go around?

With an operating tower, your traffic pattern can be
whatever you and the tower can agree on at the moment.
Right traffic, left traffic, straight in, are all OK if
approved. You can ask for a take-off on 1R and do a left
turn and get the option on 17R, next time around, teardrop
and land on 31 and then do an cross over at mid-field to a
left downwind full stop on 19L because it a closer taxi.
I've this type of creative traffic pattern at Wichita, Tulsa
Int'l and also fit into arriving airplane traffic while
doing multiengine training doing steep turns and close
traffic to avoid the final approach to the active runways.
Ask and you shall receive. But see and avoid and right of
way still applies.



"Emily" wrote in message
news | Newps wrote:
| snip
| Right of way rules do not apply at tower controlled
fields.
|
|
| Cite?
|
| The tower and the approach control, if so equipped, make
the sequence.
| They both change the sequence for arrivals and
departures solely at
| their discretion as the operation warrants. Controllers
are not taught
| right of way rules. Why would they? By definition
those rules are for
| when there is no control.
|
| I was just wondering. That's something I didn't get from
the regulation.


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Old October 18th 06, 10:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Roger (K8RI)
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Default How often do you have to go around?

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:56:25 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

With an operating tower, your traffic pattern can be
whatever you and the tower can agree on at the moment.
Right traffic, left traffic, straight in, are all OK if
approved. You can ask for a take-off on 1R and do a left
turn and get the option on 17R, next time around, teardrop
and land on 31 and then do an cross over at mid-field to a
left downwind full stop on 19L because it a closer taxi.
I've this type of creative traffic pattern at Wichita, Tulsa
Int'l and also fit into arriving airplane traffic while


3BS is uncontrolled. The RNAV/GPS for both 06 and 24 start so far out
they are straight in from outside the airport area. The VOR-A comes
in at an angle at half pattern altitude crossing all runways at about
45 degrees. We have 18/36 and 06/24 while the approach is a circle
to land from a heading of 137 degrees at 500 AGL. That's where you
really need a safety pilot with their head on a swivel and I still
take the foggles off at least 3 miles out.

doing multiengine training doing steep turns and close
traffic to avoid the final approach to the active runways.
Ask and you shall receive. But see and avoid and right of
way still applies.


I've even had the ILS 28 when traffic was departing 10 at TVC. It was
see and avoid as well as advisories from the tower. I gotta admit
that with a 20 knot tail wind maintaining the GS was a challenge.
:-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
 




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