North Korea's Air Force and The Bomb

Bush didn't pick the war, it was forced on him. Glad we
have a Commander in Chief and not a wimp.



".Blueskies." wrote in
message
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| Bush picked the wrong war...
|
|

NW_Pilot wrote:
"cjcampbell" wrote in message
oups.com...

NW_Pilot wrote:

I will not believe anything the news media and government tells me about
how
bad another country is untill I see it for myself. The U.S. government
said
Beirut Lebanon is a bad place and that the "Muslims" all want to kill all
Americans hahahahaha...B.S. Well I walked the streets of Beirut at night
for
a few hours alone, myself a non Muslim on a Muslim holiday and nothing
but
friendly people even the guys with the machine guns have proper muzzle
control and are friendlier than our police here in the states!!

I suggest that one look and think for themselves and make their own
thoughts
and dismiss all the media/government hype! Yes, the government controls
the
so called free and independent press and are resorting the "Religious"
type
tactics to try and use Fear to control the citizens and rest of the
world!

Lots of loons in the northwest.


Yep, there are a lot of us loons here :-)

I guess that makes us charter members of the Puget Sound Loons. Even if
that does mean that all Dawgs and Cougs are loons.

The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to get a
reputation.
The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
won't take casualties. OBL has said so.

We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria will
take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is coming
from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only way
to win is to either fight a big war with those two terrorist
nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will be
unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling is OK
with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel don't
matter.

So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their runways,
all their operational military airplanes, their ammo dumps
and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
capable of defending their border at the 38th.

Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their borders
and we win.

Or we can continue to do what we are doing, waiting until
they do develop WMD/nukes and then we get what they want,
destruction of the world so their "leader" can rise from the
dead/well.

Only the fanatics in the Middle East matter, the others are
all businessmen now.



"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| When did we attack Iran?
| Attacking Iraq got Libya to surrender several ship loads
of
| nuke weapons materials to the USA. It is better to
strike
| preemptively than to wait till they can put up a "fair
| fight" the object is victory and not stalemate.
|
| Haven't you been watching CNN? :-)
|
| In that case, we should be attacking Venezuala, Russia,
China, Iran,
| Syria, which one's did I forget?
|
|
| Matt

Jim Macklin wrote:
The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to get a
reputation.
The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
won't take casualties. OBL has said so.

We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria will
take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is coming
from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only way
to win is to either fight a big war with those two terrorist
nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will be
unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling is OK
with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel don't
matter.

So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their runways,
all their operational military airplanes, their ammo dumps
and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
capable of defending their border at the 38th.

Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their borders
and we win.

You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians and Muslims have
been fighting in the middle east for millenia. You think we're going to
put that all to rest in a few weeks by bombing NK to smitherens? That
is too funny.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Jim Macklin wrote:
The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to get a reputation.
The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that won't take
casualties. OBL has said so.

We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria will take notice.
Since most of our trouble in Iraq is coming from Syria and Iran, not
local Iraqi citizens, the only way to win is to either fight a big war
with those two terrorist nations OR slap NK down with enough force that
they will be unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling is OK
with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel don't matter.

So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their runways, all their
operational military airplanes, their ammo dumps and power plants that
supply military bases and nuclear plants. That could all be done in a
week-end with conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
capable of defending their border at the 38th.

Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their borders and we win.

You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians and Muslims have
been fighting in the middle east for millenia.

1.384 Millenia (Give Or Take...)

Jay B

Given sufficient time they will simply implode, like the Soviet Union.
The end will be prolonged as long as they are nurtured and enabled by
China or anyone else.

You're assuming that the Koreans will go out with a wimper, like the
Soviets.

That's a pretty big gamble.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

No, just a few days. NK is an easy target for B2 and B1
with JDAM and ALCM from B52s. We also have the F117. They
have few targets, we have lots of tactical fighters to
support the RoC army along the 37th parallel. They have
"stepped across" the line and re-opened the war that has
been on "hold" since 1953.

Iran and Syria are fighting episode 1,000 in the Crusades
and it is for their old Muslim religion, their power in
Europe and to make the whole world into their image. They
do not believe that the west has the balls to actually fight
and win. They are willing to win in baby steps. We bluster
and impose sanctions.

Why do they care.

Solve the NK problem while it is an easy military problem
and won't require we use out nukes and will prevent them
from ever using nukes.

Then when we tell IRAN that they are going too far and need
to comply, we won't need to nuke them either. But if they
are still not sure, we shock and awe with 98% conventional
and one megaton on something forty miles from Tehran at
midnight, maybe a powerplant or a military base.

Syria will do what Libya did, tuck their heads and
surrender.

It might bring peace for 100 years and during that time,
education and a good life will alter the Muslim doctrine so
they will become a peaceful religion.

There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and if only 1%
are evil, vicious baby killers, it is a big army. Many
surveys have put the number at over 10% or 150 million
potential suicide bombers, terrorists and supporters. Let's
wait a decade so it can be a "fair fight" and they have a
chance to destroy the western world and the USA.

NOT


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to
get a
| reputation.
| The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
| won't take casualties. OBL has said so.
|
| We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria
will
| take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is
coming
| from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only
way
| to win is to either fight a big war with those two
terrorist
| nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they will
be
| unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling
is OK
| with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel
don't
| matter.
|
| So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their
runways,
| all their operational military airplanes, their ammo
dumps
| and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
| plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
| conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are perfectly
| capable of defending their border at the 38th.
|
| Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their
borders
| and we win.
|
| You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians
and Muslims have
| been fighting in the middle east for millenia. You think
we're going to
| put that all to rest in a few weeks by bombing NK to
smitherens? That
| is too funny.
|
|
| Matt

"Grumman-581" wrote:


If I were the Taiwanese, I'd be sweating.

They're busy having fun with a political scandal right now...


Aren't they always?

Starving people are a mob. That's why the rescue helicopter
hover 50 feet up and drop food. A starving country might do
anything. Remember this guy kidnaps under-age teenage girls
all over the world to be HIS sex slaves.

We can prevent them from ever being able to nuke Seattle or
Portland, but they can get satisfaction from killing a
million Americans. We can do out thing to them as I have
described with just enough dead that they will "think again,
maybe the official residences" of the child rapist.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Given sufficient time they will simply implode, like the
Soviet Union.
| The end will be prolonged as long as they are nurtured
and enabled by
| China or anyone else.
|
| You're assuming that the Koreans will go out with a
wimper, like the
| Soviets.
|
| That's a pretty big gamble.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

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"Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:bxWYg.5033$XX2.407@dukeread04...
| No, just a few days. NK is an easy target for B2 and B1
| with JDAM and ALCM from B52s. We also have the F117.
They
| have few targets, we have lots of tactical fighters to
| support the RoC army along the 37th parallel. They have
| "stepped across" the line and re-opened the war that has
| been on "hold" since 1953.
|
| Iran and Syria are fighting episode 1,000 in the Crusades
| and it is for their old Muslim religion, their power in
| Europe and to make the whole world into their image. They
| do not believe that the west has the balls to actually
fight
| and win. They are willing to win in baby steps. We
bluster
| and impose sanctions.
|
| Why do they care.
|
| Solve the NK problem while it is an easy military problem
| and won't require we use out nukes and will prevent them
| from ever using nukes.
|
| Then when we tell IRAN that they are going too far and
need
| to comply, we won't need to nuke them either. But if they
| are still not sure, we shock and awe with 98% conventional
| and one megaton on something forty miles from Tehran at
| midnight, maybe a powerplant or a military base.
|
| Syria will do what Libya did, tuck their heads and
| surrender.
|
| It might bring peace for 100 years and during that time,
| education and a good life will alter the Muslim doctrine
so
| they will become a peaceful religion.
|
| There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and if only 1%
| are evil, vicious baby killers, it is a big army. Many
| surveys have put the number at over 10% or 150 million
| potential suicide bombers, terrorists and supporters.
Let's
| wait a decade so it can be a "fair fight" and they have a
| chance to destroy the western world and the USA.
|
| NOT
|
|
| "Matt Whiting" wrote in message
| ...
|| Jim Macklin wrote:
|| The Fonz told Ritchie, "you've got to hit somebody" to
| get a
|| reputation.
|| The USA reputation is that we are a bunch of wimps that
|| won't take casualties. OBL has said so.
||
|| We need to "hit" somebody and then maybe IRAN and Syria
| will
|| take notice. Since most of our trouble in Iraq is
| coming
|| from Syria and Iran, not local Iraqi citizens, the only
| way
|| to win is to either fight a big war with those two
| terrorist
|| nations OR slap NK down with enough force that they
will
| be
|| unable to fire on the RoC. We know that some shelling
| is OK
|| with the liberals because Hezba rockets into Israel
| don't
|| matter.
||
|| So we sink most of the NK Navy, destroy all their
| runways,
|| all their operational military airplanes, their ammo
| dumps
|| and power plants that supply military bases and nuclear
|| plants. That could all be done in a week-end with
|| conventional weapons. The RoC Army and AF are
perfectly
|| capable of defending their border at the 38th.
||
|| Then we tell Iran and Syria to surrender, open their
| borders
|| and we win.
||
|| You aren't this naive in real life are you? Christians
| and Muslims have
|| been fighting in the middle east for millenia. You think
| we're going to
|| put that all to rest in a few weeks by bombing NK to
| smitherens? That
|| is too funny.
||
||
|| Matt
|
|