MXSMANIC - The posts don't add up

Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

140 an hour dual really isn't *that* much higher than in the US.

It is only slightly less than I earn in a week.


With some training you could be advanced to burger flipper in a year or two.
Then you'll be rolling in cash.




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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

He also quoted an incorrect formula showing something less than 2 Gs in a 60
degree bank.


"swag" wrote in message
ups.com...
I believe that the "wrong math" citation that everyone is alluding to
was when he posited that if the probability of one engine failing was
1/1000 then a single engine plane's chance of turning into a glider was
1/1000, but a twin's chance of turning into a glider was 1/1000000,
although the chance of a twin losing an engine was 1/500. Our more
mathematically correct and esteemed colleagues cited the exact formula
(which would correct the 1/500 to 1/500- 1/1000000). I believe that
any engineer worth his salt would call the second term negligible.


John Theune wrote:
Steve Foley wrote:
"John Theune" wrote in message
news:BAKXg.9272$ms1.6478@trndny05...

However I've also seen him write on detailed medical and mathematical
subjects and he has demonstrated a fair amount on knowledge.

I can't comment on his medical knowledge, but in the mathematical
subjects I
recall, he applied the wrong formula for a given situation.

Pretty mach the same thing he does in aviation matters.


True, he was wrong there also, but he knew enough math to make it appear
reasonable ( and wrong ) Not what I would expect from a minimum wage
earning person. If he had that level of knowledge/training he should be
able to get a better job. I know from what I've seen over the years at
work the ability to be right is not required for getting a job, it's
much more knowing the lingo. I'm sure you run into clueless people at
work before also. One wonders how they keep their jobs but its not
terrible surprising how they got them.
Bottom line is I don't buy his line of poverty as a reason to not learn
more about flying from a professional or even by himself from purchased
book.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Kev writes:
I guarantee that your view would change in this case.
People guaranteed me all sorts of things in the past, too. They were
still wrong.

You see, almost everyone who first flew, had misconceptions
similar to yours.
I heard this, too. A lot of people are stupid. But I'm not.

LOL. I actually can't decide if you're A) a computer program, B)
an 80 year who's stuck in his ways, or C) a 15 year old who's not very
socially adept.

Your income and naïveté point to all of them :-)

Ah well, I"m still hoping someone can take you for a flight someday.

Cheers, Kev

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:03:10 +0000, Neil Gould wrote:

Whereas with flight training, you become convinced that you know the
answers and never bother to ask.

Wrong, yet again. You have to learn the answers to the elementary
questions you're asking well prior to getting a certificate, and in our
flight school, well before you can even solo.

And even after once is licensed, one is still a student. Thus the
"license to learn" label.

- Andrew

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:52:40 -0700, Kev wrote:

I guarantee that your view would change in this case.

That is a losing bet. You're assuming a personality interested in
learning. There's no evidence of that.

Rather, we see evidence of opinions formed with bad information and then
retained despite any contrary evidence. We see valuation of an opinion
formed from nothing but games as equivalent (or superior) to opinions
formed from actual experience.

I've no difficulty believing that nothing ever causes this poster to learn
anything that involves correcting misunderstandings.

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:52:40 -0700, Kev wrote:

I guarantee that your view would change in this case.

That is a losing bet. You're assuming a personality interested in
learning. There's no evidence of that.

Rather, we see evidence of opinions formed with bad information and then
retained despite any contrary evidence. We see valuation of an opinion
formed from nothing but games as equivalent (or superior) to opinions
formed from actual experience.

That describes virtually everyone the 'net, especially when it comes to
say, political arguments. Neither side often gives in and admits a
mistaken belief.

big grin

I think everyone's just frustrated, because they really want him to
understand.

Kev

Jon Woellhaf wrote:
Emily has remarked a couple times about her inability to fly a MS-type
flight simulator without crashing it.

Emily,

I would be very interested to know how you'd do in a full motion simulator
like the airlines use.

Jon



I've flown a full motion 727 sim a few times and did fairly well (this
was before I got my multi). Not within standards by any means, but I
never crashed it.

On 10/17/06 11:48 PM, in article
, "Bob Noel"
wrote:

In article C15B0F89.9F11C%jeffbDELETEME@DELETEMETOOwizardofd raws.com,
Wizard of Draws wrote:

Nearly everyone here has had experience with flight simulators (hundreds, if
not thousands of hours in my case) before they went on to climb into a real
cockpit.

ahem... older pilots tend not to have sim experience of any value prior to
getting into a real cockpit. For example, I did my primary training in 1987.
MSFS was a horrible toy at that time. And my first flight was in 1973, when
a friend of my father got me hooked on flying with a xc in an arrow. Not
many sims available in 1973.

How old do you have to be to be considered "older"?
FWIW, I was standing in the corner being punished when Kennedy was shot.
--
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Marty Shapiro writes:

Hmmm. A teen age high school drop out earns significantly more than
that at an entry level position with McDonalds.

In the United States, perhaps. In France, it works out about the
same. It's a job that pays minimum wage, and it is only part-time.

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN writes:

With some training you could be advanced to burger flipper in a year or two.
Then you'll be rolling in cash.

With a bit of offshoring, you could be in the same position in a year
or two.

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