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Old October 20th 06, 03:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Denny
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I just finished writing out paychecks... My employees are a mix of
more skilled and lesser skilled folks... The higher skills are paid
more obvious averaging a $100 a week more in gross pay... One my
more skilled employees has a husband with MS (is on expensive drugs)
and both of them continue to work... A lesser skilled employee
receives Medicaid and food stamp assistance for herself and her
child...

The bottom line is that I just did the payroll and after tax witholding
and despite the higher gross income, my more skilled employee took home
exactly $10 more than the employee on public assistance... And besides
monthly assistance (money taken from her co-worker) the person on
welfare will receive an income tax credit with a check from the US
gov't at the end of the year...

Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken?

denny

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Old October 20th 06, 04:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Bob Noel
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In article .com,
"Denny" wrote:

Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken?


Nope.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

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Old October 20th 06, 05:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck
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The bottom line is that I just did the payroll and after tax witholding
and despite the higher gross income, my more skilled employee took home
exactly $10 more than the employee on public assistance... And besides
monthly assistance (money taken from her co-worker) the person on
welfare will receive an income tax credit with a check from the US
gov't at the end of the year...

Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken?


No, you're not. I've been telling everyone who listen this for years.

I am in the middle of paying quarterly taxes for our corporation, and
am so disgusted with how much of our income vanishes that I can hardly
breathe.

These taxes include:

- 5% of every penny we collect goes to the state, right off the top
- 7% of every penny we collect goes to the county
- Quarterly "Workforce Development" (AKA: Unemployment) Tax to Iowa
- Quarterly Federal Unemployment Tax to D.C.
- State income tax to Iowa

These don't include the monthly taxes:

- Federal payroll deduction
- Federal Medicare
- Federal Social Security
- Property tax to Iowa City

ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed,
because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private"
road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street
sweeper out front since last spring.

Then you read about something like your employee's situation, and you
just want to cry. All that money is being sucked from the person who
worked hard, went to school, and found themselves a skilled position --
just so it can be spoon-fed to the person who didn't.

Meanwhile, I can't give my employees a raise -- because all of our
damned money is going to the GOVERNMENT. It's ridiculous, it's
criminal, and it's GOT to stop.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old October 20th 06, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
ktbr
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Jay Honeck wrote:


ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed,
because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private"
road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street
sweeper out front since last spring.


It doesn't vanish, here's where it goes... after various state and
federal agencies (that exist soley for the purpose of wealth
re-distribution and nothing else) skim the cream off the top to
pay for their salaries, benefits and union dues, the remaining
money is handed out to people who have not earned in order to
by their vote.

That's the American way.
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Old October 20th 06, 11:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
.Blueskies.
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"ktbr" wrote in message ...
: Jay Honeck wrote:
:
:
: ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed,
: because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private"
: road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street
: sweeper out front since last spring.
:
: It doesn't vanish, here's where it goes... after various state and
: federal agencies (that exist soley for the purpose of wealth
: re-distribution and nothing else) skim the cream off the top to
: pay for their salaries, benefits and union dues, the remaining
: money is handed out to people who have not earned in order to
: by their vote.
:
: That's the American way.

This is the American way:
http://www.federalbudget.com/



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Old October 21st 06, 12:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
kontiki
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..Blueskies. wrote:

This is the American way:
http://www.federalbudget.com/




Buying votes gets more expensive every year.

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Old October 21st 06, 01:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Matt Barrow
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"kontiki" wrote in message
...
.Blueskies. wrote:

This is the American way:
http://www.federalbudget.com/




Buying votes gets more expensive every year.

Ya gotta keep 'em bought.


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Old October 22nd 06, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Roger (K8RI)
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:53:56 GMT, ".Blueskies."
wrote:


"ktbr" wrote in message ...
: Jay Honeck wrote:
:
:
: ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed,
: because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private"
: road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street
: sweeper out front since last spring.
:
: It doesn't vanish, here's where it goes... after various state and
: federal agencies (that exist soley for the purpose of wealth
: re-distribution and nothing else) skim the cream off the top to
: pay for their salaries, benefits and union dues, the remaining
: money is handed out to people who have not earned in order to
: by their vote.
:
: That's the American way.

This is the American way:
http://www.federalbudget.com/


And to think, just a few years ago we had a chance to pay it all off,
or at least greately reduce it when we had the money. Instead the
politicians wanted to give the excess money back to the people who of
course all agreed, or most did. So now today we have a debt that has
grown to over 8 trillion with an interest payment larger than the GNP
of many nations.

The first rule of finanance is to get rid of any debts as soon as
possible. Nothing costs more than money you already own unless of
course if the money you owe is making more money for you than it would
were it paid off. IE the money, unlike the national debt, is earning
money for you even after interest.




Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Old October 20th 06, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...

Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken?


No, you're not. I've been telling everyone who listen this for years.

I am in the middle of paying quarterly taxes for our corporation, and
am so disgusted with how much of our income vanishes that I can hardly
breathe.

These taxes include:

- 5% of every penny we collect goes to the state, right off the top
- 7% of every penny we collect goes to the county
- Quarterly "Workforce Development" (AKA: Unemployment) Tax to Iowa
- Quarterly Federal Unemployment Tax to D.C.
- State income tax to Iowa

These don't include the monthly taxes:

- Federal payroll deduction
- Federal Medicare
- Federal Social Security
- Property tax to Iowa City

ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed,
because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private"
road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street
sweeper out front since last spring.

Then you read about something like your employee's situation, and you
just want to cry. All that money is being sucked from the person who
worked hard, went to school, and found themselves a skilled position --
just so it can be spoon-fed to the person who didn't.

Meanwhile, I can't give my employees a raise -- because all of our
damned money is going to the GOVERNMENT. It's ridiculous, it's
criminal, and it's GOT to stop.


Hey, Jay!! Give this a read; long, almost 30 pages, but well worth it if
anyone thinks the Repubs are going to change any of this, ever.

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/...nservatism.asp


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Old October 21st 06, 02:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck
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Hey, Jay!! Give this a read; long, almost 30 pages, but well worth it if
anyone thinks the Repubs are going to change any of this, ever.

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/...nservatism.asp


I'll check it out, but I don't need it to outline the decline and fall
fo conservatism. I've watched it die on the vine for the last 8 years.

We need a socially liberal (and I don't mean welfare-state liberal),
fiscally conservative third party in this country, and we need it NOW.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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