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Ron Wanttaja wrote:

Pilot stupidity is the primary causal factor of most GA accidents.

All accidents are, at the root, due to pilot error. Sometimes, though, the
pilot's only error is in getting out of bed that day.....

Ron Wanttaja

I don't agree. The DC-10 in Sioux City IA (Capt Hays); an MD 80 ntype
crask in the Pacific, The Airbus in New York soon after 9/11, etc are
mechanical issues that I would not attribute to the pilot(s).

Ron Lee

Wasn't the Airbus due to too rapid and complete rudder activation? Since it
wasn't warned against, I guess it can't be completely laid on the pilot, but
still it was a pilot input that caused the failure.

mike

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:

Pilot stupidity is the primary causal factor of most GA accidents.

All accidents are, at the root, due to pilot error. Sometimes, though,
the
pilot's only error is in getting out of bed that day.....

Ron Wanttaja

I don't agree. The DC-10 in Sioux City IA (Capt Hays); an MD 80 ntype
crask in the Pacific, The Airbus in New York soon after 9/11, etc are
mechanical issues that I would not attribute to the pilot(s).

Ron Lee

"mike regish" wrote:

Wasn't the Airbus due to too rapid and complete rudder activation? Since it
wasn't warned against, I guess it can't be completely laid on the pilot, but
still it was a pilot input that caused the failure.


That one may be ambiguous.

Ron Lee

"Ron Lee" wrote in message That one may be ambiguous.

Ambiguous how? In that the pilot mistakingly believed that full flight
control travel was safe because he was below manuevering speed and American
Airline's training program reinforced that flawed premise?

That airplane didn't break without the pilot's help.

D.

"Capt.Doug" wrote:

"Ron Lee" wrote in message That one may be ambiguous.

Ambiguous how? In that the pilot mistakingly believed that full flight
control travel was safe because he was below manuevering speed and American
Airline's training program reinforced that flawed premise?

That airplane didn't break without the pilot's help.

D.

Ambiguous because I do not recall if it was a design issue or pilot
problem.

The point remains is that aircraft problems have led to crashes.

Ron Lee

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
Ambiguous because I do not recall if it was a design issue or pilot
problem.

I would put that particular example in the training category.

The point remains is that aircraft problems have led to crashes.

As I know personally, but it wouldn't be r.a.p. if we didn't nitpick. :-)

D.