Iraq: Al-Sadr makes a move.

On 21 Oct 2006, John Gilbert said the following in
link.net.

"tscottme" wrote in message
...
That's funny Sept 11 happened when we were far more isolationist than
we
are
likely ever to be in the future. It has taken 5 years of fighting in
Iraq to achieve a similar body count as happened in a couple of hours
on one Tuesday morning.

Point of fact, the body count in Iraq is 600,000+ and rising.

A fact based accounting puts the number between 50,000 & 100,000.

--
Regards,
Dann
Blogging at: http://www.modempool.com/nucleardann/blogspace/blog.htm

Gilbert and Sullivan...the team that made opera palatable.

"Dann" wrote in message
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On 21 Oct 2006, John Gilbert said the following in
link.net.

"tscottme" wrote in message
...
That's funny Sept 11 happened when we were far more isolationist than
we
are
likely ever to be in the future. It has taken 5 years of fighting in
Iraq to achieve a similar body count as happened in a couple of hours
on one Tuesday morning.

Point of fact, the body count in Iraq is 600,000+ and rising.

A fact based accounting puts the number between 50,000 & 100,000.

A what?

We're talking about a study by the John Hopkins School of Epidemeology
published in a peer reviewed journal.

Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses 'fact
based accounting' please.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black" wrote in message
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"Dann" wrote in message
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On 21 Oct 2006, John Gilbert said the following in
link.net.

"tscottme" wrote in message
...
That's funny Sept 11 happened when we were far more isolationist than
we
are
likely ever to be in the future. It has taken 5 years of fighting in
Iraq to achieve a similar body count as happened in a couple of hours
on one Tuesday morning.

Point of fact, the body count in Iraq is 600,000+ and rising.

A fact based accounting puts the number between 50,000 & 100,000.

A what?

We're talking about a study by the John Hopkins School of Epidemeology
published in a peer reviewed journal.

Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses 'fact
based accounting' please.

--
William Black



The Iraqi Health Ministry estimates 50,000 deaths in Iraq since March 20003
and the Brookings Institution estimates 60,000. Iraq Body Count estimates
44-49,000 reported deaths. The UN estimate of 19,000 deaths this year means
it would take approximately 20 years to reach the the John Hopkins numbers
at the current rate. In other words, multiple reputable sources find the
Hopkins numbers to be innacurate.

Jarg

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"Dann" wrote in message
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On 21 Oct 2006, John Gilbert said the following in
link.net.

"tscottme" wrote in message
...
That's funny Sept 11 happened when we were far more isolationist than
we
are
likely ever to be in the future. It has taken 5 years of fighting in
Iraq to achieve a similar body count as happened in a couple of hours
on one Tuesday morning.

Point of fact, the body count in Iraq is 600,000+ and rising.

A fact based accounting puts the number between 50,000 & 100,000.

A what?

We're talking about a study by the John Hopkins School of Epidemeology
published in a peer reviewed journal.

Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses 'fact
based accounting' please.

--
William Black



The Iraqi Health Ministry estimates 50,000 deaths in Iraq since March
20003 and the Brookings Institution estimates 60,000. Iraq Body Count
estimates 44-49,000 reported deaths. The UN estimate of 19,000 deaths
this year means it would take approximately 20 years to reach the the John
Hopkins numbers at the current rate. In other words, multiple reputable
sources find the Hopkins numbers to be innacurate.

Engl;ish not your first language or something?

"Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses 'fact
based accounting' please."

Propaganda pieces produced by some US puppet doesn't count.

The UN can't even tell you how many New York parking tickets they didn't pay
this year, never mind how many dead...

With a total population of twenty seven million and a pre war deathrate of
over five per thousand a year any rate that is less than a hundred and fifty
thousand a year is telling lies

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black wrote:
"Dann" wrote in message
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On 21 Oct 2006, John Gilbert said the following in
thlink.net.


"tscottme" wrote in message
...

That's funny Sept 11 happened when we were far more isolationist than
we

are

likely ever to be in the future. It has taken 5 years of fighting in
Iraq to achieve a similar body count as happened in a couple of hours
on one Tuesday morning.

Point of fact, the body count in Iraq is 600,000+ and rising.

A fact based accounting puts the number between 50,000 & 100,000.


A what?

We're talking about a study by the John Hopkins School of Epidemeology
published in a peer reviewed journal.

Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses 'fact
based accounting' please.

His mind is made up. Don't be confusin' him with the facts.

Cheers

==bob

Bob Matthews wrote:
William Black wrote:
We're talking about a study by the John Hopkins School of Epidemeology
published in a peer reviewed journal.

Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses
'fact based accounting' please.

His mind is made up. Don't be confusin' him with the facts.

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.

Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.


Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...

forssberg wrote:
Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.


Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...

The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.

Raptor wrote:
forssberg wrote:
Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.


Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...

The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.

The doctors are asking for too much money then.

Andrew Swallow

Raptor wrote:

The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.


From your purely theoretical answer I deduce that you're not aware of
the debate on the abnormally low number of cluster samples used in the
Lancet study. Other methodological critiques have also been moved by
credible people.