Common instruments on small aircraft

Stefan wrote in news:aba8b$453a578c$54497ec8$24035
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Mxsmanic schrieb:

Are small GA aircraft often equipped with things like autopilots,
...
The Baron I fly in simulation is equipped with these

Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot...

Stefan


Only when in 16x mode

Judah wrote in
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Stefan wrote in
news:aba8b$453a578c$54497ec8$24035 @news.hispeed.ch:

Mxsmanic schrieb:

Are small GA aircraft often equipped with things like autopilots,
...
The Baron I fly in simulation is equipped with these

Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot...

Stefan


Only when in 16x mode


Oh, and Manic, so you don't have to ask... No, the GA Aircraft that I fly
do not have a 16x mode button which causes time to travel at 16x normal. I
heard that NASA and the Military had worked on one in the early 70s, but
the results were just too upsetting to tolerate because they had limited
control of the speed at which time travelled. All three times that they
tried it, the Pilots of that craft found themselves on a planet that was
controlled by talking Apes.

"Damn them!!! Damn them all to hell!!!"

"Judah" wrote

Oh, and Manic, so you don't have to ask... No, the GA Aircraft that I fly
do not have a 16x mode button which causes time to travel at 16x normal. I
heard that NASA and the Military had worked on one in the early 70s, but
the results were just too upsetting to tolerate because they had limited
control of the speed at which time travelled. All three times that they
tried it, the Pilots of that craft found themselves on a planet that was
controlled by talking Apes.

"Damn them!!! Damn them all to hell!!!"

LOL! Perfect. You anticipated the next question, and saved an extra post!

Sad, but true.

Still, there are those among us who say he is asking good questions, and to not
discourage him. Hmmmm.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote

Oh, and Manic, so you don't have to ask... No, the GA Aircraft that I
fly do not have a 16x mode button which causes time to travel at 16x
normal. I heard that NASA and the Military had worked on one in the
early 70s, but the results were just too upsetting to tolerate because
they had limited control of the speed at which time travelled. All
three times that they tried it, the Pilots of that craft found
themselves on a planet that was controlled by talking Apes.

"Damn them!!! Damn them all to hell!!!"

LOL! Perfect. You anticipated the next question, and saved an extra
post!

Sad, but true.

Still, there are those among us who say he is asking good questions, and
to not discourage him. Hmmmm.

A small number of his questions might actually allow someone to learn from
others' experience.

Typically, though, he is just looking for validation of his simulator
experience, or his decision to avoid actual flight, and that's when I start
to get annoyed.

"Judah" wrote

A small number of his questions might actually allow someone to learn from
others' experience.

You are really reaching for it, when you use might in the above sentence.

MOST of his questions are unnecessary, argumentative, have already been
answered in previous threads, or just plain dumb. We can do without his
questions. Are you sure that continuing the dialogue with him is what you want
to be doing?

Did you read the post from Dudley in today's postings? He hit the nail on the
head. In short, Dudley said the guy is one of the best trolls he has seen in a
long time. As usual, Dudley is right on. He goes on to say that he is so good,
because he gets people like you to post in response to him, and people like me
to say it is the wrong thing to do.

I really want to quit doing this. I want the troll to go away. Do you? You
know what to do. Do the right thing.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
Did you read the post from Dudley in today's postings? He hit the nail on the
head. In short, Dudley said the guy is one of the best trolls he has seen in a
long time. As usual, Dudley is right on.

I would say he's not. Having been a sysop on Compuserve back in the
80's, and on the net for decades, and having got into some decent
trolling and flamewars, I'd say that he's not a troll. But I would
say that those who get annoyed at him should seriously get a life
before they get angry and hit a kid, or kill someone in their plane,
when they lose their temper over the least little things.

See, I have a younger brother who's a nuclear engineer with a zillion
degrees. He has a dry sense of humor, takes little offense or even
recognition of other people at times, and will ask questions but keep
his opinion even when he's dead wrong. In short, his messages are very
similar to Mxsmanics. But he's an okay guy, really.

So I think he's just the way he is, and IMO people who post offensive
replies to him show us far more about their own limitations than his.
I'm sure they're nice people in person, but you really couldn't tell
from their harsh and really unfunny replies.

Regards, Kev

"Kev" wrote

But I would
say that those who get annoyed at him should seriously get a life
before they get angry and hit a kid, or kill someone in their plane,
when they lose their temper over the least little things.

"I" would say you are way out of line, comparing somone who gets annoyed at
"him", to a person that loses their temper and hits a kid, or kills someone in
their plane, when they lose their temper over the least little thing.

WAY over the line, out of line.

See, I have a younger brother who's a nuclear engineer with a zillion
degrees. He has a dry sense of humor, takes little offense or even
recognition of other people at times, and will ask questions but keep
his opinion even when he's dead wrong.

I teach high school kids. Believe me when I tell you I come across people like
your brother all of the time. The difference is, they have a real interest in
the subject they are asking about. This guy does not.

This is a group about flying airplanes, not simulator games. Real airplanes. He
has repeatedly stated that he has no interest in flying a real plane, and does
not see why anyone would feel the need to fly a real airplane. His questions
belong in a simulator group, and could be answered by the people in that group
that are also real pilots, and have real knowlege about the things he wants to
know. His questions are only annoying in this group, since they have no place
here.

In short, his messages are very similar to Mxsmanics. But he's an okay guy,
really.

I'm glad. It is possible that this guy is a okay guy in person, also. I don't
know, because I have never met him.

Their is another big difference, between the comparison you make to your
brother, and the questions he asks, and you answer. At some point, you have
control over what you choose to answer, and when to ignore, or redirect the
questions. There is no such choice, here.

It is like a non smoker (you) sitting in a public place, having a conversation
with a friend, and he (a smoker) comes up, sits down, and lights up. The breeze
is blowing the smoke all over both of you. You have a very easy choice to make.
Get up and move if you don't like it. You continue your conversation, and he
gets up and moves, so he can join the conversation, and continues to let his
smoke blow all over both of you, again.

What do you do? Would you continue to move, and have him follow? He does have
the right to be ther and smoke, right?

I doubt that you would remain silent, nor would most people. Yet you say it is
not right to object to his questions, and interuptions, and outright domination
of the subjects.

If the people of a locality decide that this public place that he is smoking in,
is offending too many people, they can get an issue put on a ballot, and a vote
takes place removing the right of the smoker to light up in this place.

We are the non smokers. We can not make it a violation for him to post (light
up) here, so we have to put up with it. Does that make it right? No. All we
can do is ask (as a majority) that he take his questions (smoke) elsewhere. I
have to believe that you are in the minority, and if it were possibble to vote
on it, he would be asked to leave.

If you want to answer his questions, go over to the sim group, when he moves
over there to ask his questions. You have the option of going into the smoking
room with him, if you choose.

So I think he's just the way he is, and IMO people who post offensive
replies to him show us far more about their own limitations than his.
I'm sure they're nice people in person, but you really couldn't tell
from their harsh and really unfunny replies.

Some have been offensive, yes. That is the nature of usenet. I believe that
although I have been vocal, in most cases I have not been vulgar, or overly
offensive. Some have. So what? It says nothing abut them, other than the fact
that they are extremely frustrated and annoyed by the continued invasion, by a
troll. I've been in this group for somewhere around 7 years, and I have never
seen anything close to what this guy has been doing. Nothing even similar to
draw a comparison. It is no wonder that people are frustrated. I am pretty
laid back, and as you can probably tell, I'm frustrated.

Very frustrated.
--
Jim in NC

Kev writes:

I'm sure they're nice people in person, but you really couldn't tell
from their harsh and really unfunny replies.

USENET is like alcohol, in that it causes people to reveal their real
personalities.

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