Common instruments on small aircraft

So is the "speed up the world 32 times" option. I'm waiting for my A&P to
get a bid for one on my real airplane...


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Stefan writes:

Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot...

I enjoy it, especially in large aircraft, and autopilot is a great
advantage on long trips.

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Steven Barnes writes:

So is the "speed up the world 32 times" option.

Agreed. It's one of the advantages of simulation. Although it does
seem a bit like cheating.

In practice, I usually just go on flights that are of an acceptable
duration in real time, and then fly them in real time. It's true that
small aircraft take a long time to get anywhere compared to large
jets--but then again they often seem to be much faster than cars (even
though their actual speed over the ground isn't that much greater).

For example, driving from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon takes hours, but
I can be there in about 45 minutes in a Baron.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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In practice, I usually just go on flights that are of an acceptable
duration in real time, and then fly them in real time. It's true that
small aircraft take a long time to get anywhere compared to large
jets--but then again they often seem to be much faster than cars (even
though their actual speed over the ground isn't that much greater).

For example, driving from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon takes hours, but
I can be there in about 45 minutes in a Baron.

I could be wrong, but I believe the Cruising Speed of a Baron is about 175 -
185Kts, or about 200-215MPH. The speed limit on most US Highways is 65-75MPH.
In no-wind conditions, if both vehicles are travelling in a straight line
(rare for IFR aircraft, but even rarer for vehicles on the ground) the Baron
is faster by nearly a factor of 3. Perhaps you are not flying the Baron
properly to achieve maximum performance.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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In practice, I usually just go on flights that are of an acceptable
duration in real time, and then fly them in real time. It's true that
small aircraft take a long time to get anywhere compared to large
jets--but then again they often seem to be much faster than cars (even
though their actual speed over the ground isn't that much greater).

For example, driving from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon takes hours, but
I can be there in about 45 minutes in a Baron.

I could be wrong, but I believe the Cruising Speed of a Baron is about
175 -
185Kts, or about 200-215MPH. The speed limit on most US Highways is
65-75MPH.
In no-wind conditions, if both vehicles are travelling in a straight line
(rare for IFR aircraft, but even rarer for vehicles on the ground) the
Baron
is faster by nearly a factor of 3. Perhaps you are not flying the Baron
properly to achieve maximum performance.

His Baron goes nowhere.

Judah writes:

I could be wrong, but I believe the Cruising Speed of a Baron is about 175 -
185Kts, or about 200-215MPH.

I get a ground speed of about 195-200 kts in many cases, which would
be as much as 230 mph.

The speed limit on most US Highways is 65-75MPH.
In no-wind conditions, if both vehicles are travelling in a straight line
(rare for IFR aircraft, but even rarer for vehicles on the ground) the Baron
is faster by nearly a factor of 3. Perhaps you are not flying the Baron
properly to achieve maximum performance.

It's not a race, and there are many parts of the flight that are not
performed at maximum speeds. The route is usually close to being a
straight line, but not exactly.

I should be able to take a commercial flight from KPHX to KSAN and be
there in about 40 minutes. In fact, it takes several hours.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

I should be able to take a commercial flight from KPHX to KSAN and be
there in about 40 minutes. In fact, it takes several hours.

Bull****...

Typical commercial ops between PHX and SAN take about 40-50 minutes
cycle to cycle

I've had it take longer (or shorter) due to ground movement capacity
issues at either the departure or arrival points but the actual flying
time has never taken "several hours."

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Of course he's wrong, and continues making dogmatic yet incorrect statements
that provoke similar responses to yours- that's why he's a troll.

Jay B writes:

Bull****...

Typical commercial ops between PHX and SAN take about 40-50 minutes
cycle to cycle

I'm not sure how you manage that, but a commercial flight for me
involves a lot more than the time between take-off and landing. In
fact, no commercial flight takes less than about 4 hours overall,
which is why I prefer high-speed trains for trips of less than 1000 km
or so.

I've had it take longer (or shorter) due to ground movement capacity
issues at either the departure or arrival points but the actual flying
time has never taken "several hours."

If only commercial airline flights required just "actual flying time."

The closest I can remember is America West flights at KPHX for which
you could buy a ticket and board about 20 minutes before the flight.
Overall that still added a good hour or more to the total time
required, though.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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If only commercial airline flights required just "actual flying time."

And if only cross-country travel by car required only "actual driving time".
You are very effective at comparing apples to oranges. Some people would call
it Sophistry.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Judah writes:

I could be wrong, but I believe the Cruising Speed of a Baron is about
175 - 185Kts, or about 200-215MPH.

I get a ground speed of about 195-200 kts in many cases, which would
be as much as 230 mph.

So then how is it that you claim that that is not faster than driving?

In no-wind conditions, if both vehicles are travelling in a straight
line (rare for IFR aircraft, but even rarer for vehicles on the ground)
the Baron is faster by nearly a factor of 3. Perhaps you are not flying
the Baron properly to achieve maximum performance.

It's not a race, and there are many parts of the flight that are not
performed at maximum speeds. The route is usually close to being a
straight line, but not exactly.

I should be able to take a commercial flight from KPHX to KSAN and be
there in about 40 minutes. In fact, it takes several hours.

That's irrelevant here. You're talking about a Baron, which is a GA plane.
One of the reasons I fly GA is specifically because I don't have to get to
the airport 60 minutes before flight time just to stand in lines to get X-
Ray'd and/or felt up. I get to the airport, do a preflight, start the
engines, and go. Typically 10-20 minutes of preparation.

It's not all that different than checking for oil and filling up the gas
tank before taking a cross-country trip in your car.