musings - way waay OT

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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

investment strategy on the planet -- but that doesn't prevent
intelligent people from doing it.

Maybe you have a faulty definition of "intelligent"?

otherwise intelligent.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Our "poor" live like (or even better than) the middle to upper class in
most
other nations.

I believe America is the only society in human history to have a
documented obesity problem amongst the "poor".

I believe that's more a factor of junkfood/couch potatoes.

I think your sentence makes Jay's point perfectly:

How many truly poor people in other countries have junk food and/or a
couch upon which they can "spud out?"

I do believe that America is the only society in human history to have a
"Leisure Class" at the bottom of the economic scale.

Only because the system has made many of them decide to abdicate to the
federal trough and give up any desire to make their lives better.

Jay B

Jay Honeck wrote:
Work smarter, not harder, Denny!

Matt - putting in a few hours this Saturday.

I've always hated that canned response. I first heard it when I was a
corporate drone in the '80s, when they were cutting our pay and adding
to our workload.

Back in my corporate drone days, I heard that phrase from my management.
I figured they were talking about themselfs: They were working smarter by
working me harder.

Funny, working smarter or harder didn't seem to make much differance in
how I was paid.

--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
We need a socially liberal (and I don't mean welfare-state liberal),
fiscally conservative third party in this country, and we need it NOW.

Libertarian party (http://www.lp.org/article_85.shtml):

"Unlike liberals or conservatives, Libertarians advocate a high degree of
both personal and economic liberty. For example, Libertarians agree with
conservatives about freedom in economic matters, so we're in favor of
lowering taxes, slashing bureaucratic regulation of business, and
charitable -- rather than government -- welfare. But Libertarians also
agree with liberals on personal tolerance, so we're in favor of people’s
right to choose their own personal habits and lifestyles."

P.S. This thread is definitely way off topic. While I agree with Jay's
complaint, there are other forums where these political issues are on
topic.

"Matt Barrow" wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote:
We need a socially liberal (and I don't mean welfare-state liberal),
fiscally conservative third party in this country, and we need it
NOW.

One that will get 5% of the vote?

That's pretty much what the Libertarian party polls - I assume you had that
in mind when you mentioned the 5% figure?

I believe that's more a factor of junkfood/couch potatoes.

So do I, from my experience being married to an inner city teacher.

A diet of soda, chips, Twinkies, and fast food "Dollar Menus", makes
one fat ghetto. They're not overfed, only very wrongly fed.

Eating fast food and "convenience food" is FAR more expensive than
eating healthy.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

P.S. This thread is definitely way off topic. While I agree with Jay's
complaint, there are other forums where these political issues are on
topic.

*MY* complaint???

Dang, Denny, now I even get blamed for YOUR off-topic threads!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Matt Barrow wrote:


No, there's noting one can do politically (see the article I referenced in
another post) seeing the nanny state is so popular.



Well, you really don't have any suggestion, just a lot of opinion.

"Matt Barrow" posted the exciting message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Hey, Jay!! Give this a read; long, almost 30 pages, but well worth
it if anyone thinks the Repubs are going to change any of this,
ever.

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/...cline-fall-ame
rican-conservatism.asp

I'll check it out, but I don't need it to outline the decline and
fall fo conservatism. I've watched it die on the vine for the last 8
years.

How about 40 years?


We need a socially liberal (and I don't mean welfare-state liberal),
fiscally conservative third party in this country, and we need it
NOW.

One that will get 5% of the vote?

Funny thing is, so many people declare themselves that way in polls,
but they don't vote that way.

Take away the rhetoric from the polls (ie, just ask questions about
one's principles) and the overwhelming majority of people are
socialist, or at least collectivist, despite what they CLIAM to be.


Well, it's tough to have them voting that way when most of the time the
choices boil down to:

Socially liberal and Financially liberal.
vs
Socially conservative and Financially conservative.

Unfortunately we've also discovered with the current administration that
we have

Socially very conservative and Financially very liberal!


I couldn't agree more with Jay's post.

Tim Long
CMA

"Matt Barrow" posted the exciting message
:


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Our "poor" live like (or even better than) the middle to upper class
in most
other nations.

I believe America is the only society in human history to have a
documented obesity problem amongst the "poor".

I believe that's more a factor of junkfood/couch potatoes.

I do believe that America is the only society in human history to have
a "Leisure Class" at the bottom of the economic scale.



There's something to be said about this.

I've always thought that inner cities wouldn't have a graffitti problem
or a drug problem if they were hungry.

Providing the food safety net is admirable, but it means people who don't
have a lot to do are now at least fed well enough. So they find things to
do with their idle time.

Tim