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Iraq: Al-Sadr makes a move.



 
 
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Old October 22nd 06, 03:08 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
Bob Matthews
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Default Al-Sadr makes a move.

William Black wrote:
"Dann" wrote in message
0.81...

On 21 Oct 2006, John Gilbert said the following in
thlink.net.


"tscottme" wrote in message
...

That's funny Sept 11 happened when we were far more isolationist than
we

are

likely ever to be in the future. It has taken 5 years of fighting in
Iraq to achieve a similar body count as happened in a couple of hours
on one Tuesday morning.

Point of fact, the body count in Iraq is 600,000+ and rising.


A fact based accounting puts the number between 50,000 & 100,000.



A what?

We're talking about a study by the John Hopkins School of Epidemeology
published in a peer reviewed journal.

Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses 'fact
based accounting' please.


His mind is made up. Don't be confusin' him with the facts.

Cheers

==bob

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Old October 22nd 06, 03:26 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
Raptor
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Bob Matthews wrote:
William Black wrote:
We're talking about a study by the John Hopkins School of Epidemeology
published in a peer reviewed journal.

Produce a similar academic study subjected to peer review that uses
'fact based accounting' please.


His mind is made up. Don't be confusin' him with the facts.


There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.
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Old October 24th 06, 05:08 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
forssberg
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Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.



Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...

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Old October 24th 06, 05:23 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
Raptor
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forssberg wrote:
Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.



Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...


The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.
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Old October 24th 06, 04:35 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
Andrew Swallow
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Raptor wrote:
forssberg wrote:
Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.



Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...


The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.

The doctors are asking for too much money then.

Andrew Swallow
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Old October 25th 06, 01:57 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
Raptor
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Andrew Swallow wrote:
Raptor wrote:
forssberg wrote:
Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.


Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...


The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.

The doctors are asking for too much money then.


What methodology do you prefer, and why?

--
Lynn Wallace

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.
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Old October 25th 06, 02:04 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
Andrew Swallow
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Raptor wrote:
Andrew Swallow wrote:
Raptor wrote:
forssberg wrote:
Raptor wrote:

There are no facts, just estimates. The 600K number comes from
well-accepted methodology.


Then you should read a little on the subject of methodology, in
general, and that study, in particular. 47 data clusters...

The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.

The doctors are asking for too much money then.


What methodology do you prefer, and why?

In the case of Iraq simply count all the deaths. The civil
service is working so counting the number of death certificates
will give figures accurate to within 10%, no need to sample.

Andrew Swallow
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Old October 25th 06, 01:55 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval,rec.aviation.military
forssberg
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Raptor wrote:

The methodology is well-accepted. We use it to assess the impact of
epidemics or genocides, and base policy on the resultant numbers.



From your purely theoretical answer I deduce that you're not aware of

the debate on the abnormally low number of cluster samples used in the
Lancet study. Other methodological critiques have also been moved by
credible people.

 




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