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Old October 22nd 06, 08:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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A Lieberma writes:

The above verifies based on my own experiences and looking back on one of
my own videos from KJAN to KMBO

Preflight 7 minutes
Startup procedures 1:05 minutes
Ground clearance 10 seconds.
Taxi 3:00 minutes
Runup 1:30 minutes
Clearance for take off 2 seconds (number one for takeoff)

So from opening the door of the plane to take off takes on average 12 1/2
minutes for me.


Where's the flight plan?

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Old October 22nd 06, 09:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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A Lieberma writes:

The above verifies based on my own experiences and looking back on
one of my own videos from KJAN to KMBO

Preflight 7 minutes
Startup procedures 1:05 minutes
Ground clearance 10 seconds.
Taxi 3:00 minutes
Runup 1:30 minutes
Clearance for take off 2 seconds (number one for takeoff)

So from opening the door of the plane to take off takes on average 12
1/2 minutes for me.


Where's the flight plan?


What makes you think a flight plan was or is needed?

Typical of you to go off tangent to your own question.

For what it's worth. VFR, I don't file a flight plan, get in my plane
just like my car. The above was a VFR flight.

IFR, takes 5 minutes on simple flights to 10 minutes to multi leg flights
to get everything in order thanks to computerization of planning. This
includes getting my approach plates in order, filing the plan with the
FAA.

No different then planning a trip in a car. After all, you don't get on
the road without checking maps for routes desired. Samething in the air,
I select the routes I desire.

Sheeze, so you don't file flight plans in your game world, what's the
difference? Or would that be like a REAL simulator.

Allen
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Old October 23rd 06, 12:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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A Lieberma writes:

What makes you think a flight plan was or is needed?


I never said it was needed. I just asked where it was. A flight plan
is always a good idea.

For what it's worth. VFR, I don't file a flight plan, get in my plane
just like my car. The above was a VFR flight.


Where and when will they look for you if you crash?

IFR, takes 5 minutes on simple flights to 10 minutes to multi leg flights
to get everything in order thanks to computerization of planning. This
includes getting my approach plates in order, filing the plan with the
FAA.


Then it should be easy to file one for VFR flights.

Sheeze, so you don't file flight plans in your game world ...


Actually I do. Even some VFR flight plans.

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Old October 23rd 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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For what it's worth. VFR, I don't file a flight plan, get in my plane
just like my car. The above was a VFR flight.


Where and when will they look for you if you crash?


Probably wherever you last showed up on their radar, especially if you have a
transponder, were receiving flight following, and/or called for help on the
emergency frequency.

IFR, takes 5 minutes on simple flights to 10 minutes to multi leg flights
to get everything in order thanks to computerization of planning. This
includes getting my approach plates in order, filing the plan with the
FAA.


Then it should be easy to file one for VFR flights.


It is.

Sheeze, so you don't file flight plans in your game world ...


Actually I do. Even some VFR flight plans.


That's interesting. Do you use VATSim? What is the purpose of a flight plan
in a simulation? They will certainly know where to look if you crash.
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Old October 24th 06, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Judah writes:

Probably wherever you last showed up on their radar, especially if you have a
transponder, were receiving flight following, and/or called for help on the
emergency frequency.


Yup. But that could be a long way from where you actually went down.

From a safety standpoint, the more visible you are to others,
including ATC, the better off you are if something goes wrong.

That's interesting. Do you use VATSim?


I'm considering VATSIM, yes. Currently I just use the in-game
features, which are not fancy or ideal, but enough to introduce me to
the concepts.

For example, yesterday I "filed" a VFR flight plan from Montgomery
Field (San Diego) to Palm Springs. I didn't like the default routing,
which took me over high mountains that would require a climb to over
11,000', so I added new waypoints that would take me through the
valley that leads to the city, not much higher than 8000'. I went
through some Class B along the way but I didn't bother to worry about
that on this flight (actually, the sim never proposed a Class B
transition to me, so I might never have actually entered Class B--the
sim doesn't provide clear information on the minima for the outer
parts of the airspace, although it marks their boundaries).

What is the purpose of a flight plan in a simulation?


What is the purpose of anything in a simulation? To emulate real
life, of course.

They will certainly know where to look if you crash.


If I crash, the game is over.

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Old October 28th 06, 04:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Judah writes:

Probably wherever you last showed up on their radar, especially if you
have a transponder, were receiving flight following, and/or called for
help on the emergency frequency.


Yup. But that could be a long way from where you actually went down.

From a safety standpoint, the more visible you are to others,
including ATC, the better off you are if something goes wrong.


A VFR Flight plan doesn't do more to improve your visibility with ACT except
to inlude a name, contact phone number, and aircraft color.

They will certainly know where to look if you crash.


If I crash, the game is over.


This is different than in real life.
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Old October 28th 06, 07:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Judah writes:

A VFR Flight plan doesn't do more to improve your visibility with ACT except
to inlude a name, contact phone number, and aircraft color.


That's an improvement, especially if they are trying to figure out
what happened to you, or if they are looking for your crash site.

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