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Actually, you are incorrect. MANY airports have museums either on the field
or within walking distance. Possibly. But very few museums I'm interested in have airports, and very few museums with airports are of any interest to me. Stefan |
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Steven Barnes wrote:
So is the "speed up the world 32 times" option. I'm waiting for my A&P to get a bid for one on my real airplane... The A&P would love that if it ran the Hobbs meter at 32x as well. "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Stefan writes: Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot... I enjoy it, especially in large aircraft, and autopilot is a great advantage on long trips. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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In rec.aviation.student RK Henry wrote:
GKT- The Tennessee Air Museum, Sevierville, TN. The museum is on the airport. (www.tnairmuseum.com) Of course other local destinations include Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg, and The Great Smoky Mountain National Park, but you'll need ground transportation for those. I live close enough that driving is feasible, but flying is a nicer way to get to the museum and I don't have to buck highway traffic. CRE- Crescent Beach, North Myrtle Beach, SC. The beach is a couple of blocks from the airport. About a mile. Of course MYR is 13 NM southwest at Myrtle Beach, but I haven't actually been there. The last time I was in Myrtle Beach, MYR was a military base. MYR is also close to the shore. (Current pireps on CRE & MYR please.) Funny. In all the times I've gone there, I've never heard "Crescent Beach" before. It's Grand Strand Airport, or North Myrtle Beach. This is a great airport. Almost always someone comes out with a cart to direct you to parking. They normally have 5 or more cars available for rental and will let you have one for free if you are just going out for a short lunch. Walking to the beach is about 3/4 mile. Wide, clean, fine-grained sand. W45- Luray, VA. Luray Caverns. (www.luraycaverns.com) Free courtesy transportation to the caverns. After the tour of the caverns, which includes a recital of the Great Stalacpipe Organ, there's an antique auto museum with several interesting cars I'd never seen before. FFA- First Flight at Kill Devil Hills, NC. The Wright Brothers museum is said to be within walking distance. This destination is still on my to-do list. (Current pireps on this one too please.) www.nps.gov/wrbr Don't forget W95. South of FFA, Ocracoke is still my favorite destination. Land within spitting distance of the ocean. Take a short walk to Howard's Pub or a little further to check out the village. (Think Patrick McGoohan...) -- Don Poitras |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Judah writes: So? Unless one is coincidentally interested in the handful of museums close to airstrips, the fact that a few might be close is not terribly relevant. Or, if the place you want to see if 400 miles away, you could fly to the nearest airport, rent a car for the last 5 miles, and get there in substantially less time. And dramatically higher cost, higher even than a commercial flight in some cases. That depends on way too many factors for such a generic claim. It also largely depends on how you value your own time. In my case it is frequently not cheaper to fly privately than it is to fly commercially, especially when ALL related costs are considered. For example, it costs me $30 per day to park at LGA... When flying GA, I don't pay to park at the gate across from my tiedown area, even if I park there for a week. I need to add that to my total cost in an apples-to-apples comparison. Interestingly enough, comparing my time in a Commercial vs. GA scenario varies, because if I am on a commercial flight at a decent hour, I can usually work on the plane, which makes up for some of the lost time waiting in lines, etc. But the biggest savings comes when I am flying to a destination that is not serviced by a major airport, but which has a small airport very nearby. Then I save time by flying to an airport 10 or 15 minutes away from my destination, instead of flying commercially to a major metro 60-120 minutes away. You could also rent a car. That doesn't count, either, because you're using a car. Doesn't count in what way? A claim that flying is a useful method of transportation? Then I could say the same thing about your example. Driving to the Louvre doesn't count, because you have to walk past the front lawn and up the stairs to get to the ticket counter. So even though you drove most of the way, the example is invalid because you also had to walk. I also presume that you don't have Metro stops at every specific location that you want to visit, and must find a way to get from the final stop to your ultimate destination... Sometimes it might even include a taxi. So there are exceptional circumstances in which it might be practical. I don't know if that makes GA cost-effective overall, however. In my experience, there is a "sweet spot" where GA will be more cost effective than commercial flying. It varies by the type of plane flown, the cost, and the location where you live, and my sweet spot has gotten bigger as I've grown into faster planes at better rates. In my case, I will frequently save time and money flying GA to airports that are from 150 - 600 miles from my home. Shorter than 150 miles, it becomes more practical to drive, because the time savings is not very significant. Longer than 600 miles or so, it generally becomes more practical to fly commercially because the costs for cross-country Airline flights tend to be disproportionately low. You have a very narrow perception of reality, because your knowledge and experience are very limited in this regard. You should avoid making claims about things that you have no idea about. Since you've favored me with irrelevant personal advice, I'll return the favor: Stick to the subject, as I do. I enjoy discussions stemming from questions that you ask in the interest of learning more about piloting aircraft. I am glad to share my experiences witn you and the rest of this group. I've even stopped trying to convince you to go take a discovery flight, since you have made it clear that you will not. But when you make a claim with anti-GA undercurrents that is based on opinions that have been founded in something other than fact, you can expect me to respond harshly, and I would consider that quite on topic. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Judah writes: What makes you say this is makeshift? Because it is. It takes a lot of time and attention during phases of flight where time and attention are at a premium. It's a simple cost benefit factor. I believe for a certain period of time in the 70s, most Piper trainer aircraft came stock with only one radio. It was adequate. In fact, it was an improvement over the light beacons of the early flying days. But believe it or not, people were able to navigate successfully by air even before there were Radio Navaids... And if they made a wrong turn, much as in a car, they turned around and found their way, or stopped at an airport and asked for directions. Then you would get your Instrument Rating and fly a plane that had the minimum required equipment. You might also carry some backup instruments like a handheld GPS and handheld NAV/COM. I'd want a GPS and radios in the plane, but I might well carry handhelds just to be safe (along with a lot of other emergency stuff). There are several sites where you can download sectionals at no cost. It was discussed in an earlier thread. You can google it. I'll look around. The very first link offerred by a google of "free Sectionals" produces a link that will satisfy your need. Took me all of about 2 minutes to find. |
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Roy Smith wrote in news:roy-FBD347.15455622102006
@reader2.panix.com: In article , Judah wrote: Mxsmanic wrote in : Judah writes: And if only cross-country travel by car required only "actual driving time". They do. You can drive directly from door to door, so total travel time is essentially the same as driving time. I see. So you couldn't imagine stopping for gas, traffic lights, traffic jams, detours, and stretch/bio breaks on a 600 mile cross country trip? What? You don't have a relief tube in your car? :-) Hahah! You know, I should probably get one of those Gel Packs for the car like I have for the plane. Especially for the road trips that involve the kids! ![]() |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Judah writes: I see. So you couldn't imagine stopping for gas, traffic lights, traffic jams, detours, and stretch/bio breaks on a 600 mile cross country trip? You can't imagine holding patterns, weather diversions, and less-than-straight routing? Sure I can. What is your point? I was responding to your comment that drive time doesn't include anything but time actually driving, which is inaccurate. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Judah writes: But I would consider a factor of 2-3 times faster over the ground as significantly greater. Not compared to jets. Not compared to the speed of light, either. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: For what it's worth. VFR, I don't file a flight plan, get in my plane just like my car. The above was a VFR flight. Where and when will they look for you if you crash? Probably wherever you last showed up on their radar, especially if you have a transponder, were receiving flight following, and/or called for help on the emergency frequency. IFR, takes 5 minutes on simple flights to 10 minutes to multi leg flights to get everything in order thanks to computerization of planning. This includes getting my approach plates in order, filing the plan with the FAA. Then it should be easy to file one for VFR flights. It is. Sheeze, so you don't file flight plans in your game world ... Actually I do. Even some VFR flight plans. That's interesting. Do you use VATSim? What is the purpose of a flight plan in a simulation? They will certainly know where to look if you crash. |
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