Mxs wins.

Are you saying there's another solution, short of upgrading our hotel's
internet service?

I doubt you need to upgrade your hotel's Internet service even to get email
and newsgroups *through your own ISP*.

Our hotel DSL lines are provided by Qwest. Our ISP is Mediacom, a
cable-modem company (which we have at home). It would be an extra
charge each month for email and newsgroup access through Qwest at the
hotel -- times two DSL accounts -- which makes little sense if it's
just for me to screw around on Usenet between phone calls.... ;-)

Google Groups actually isn't half bad, once you get used to it. It
doesn't offer the same level of filtering as Outlook (Express), but
I've only kill-filed one person in my 8+ years here, so that doesn't
bother me. And the search features can be quite valuable.

Newsgroups you already have an offer for free access, and email you can
probably mooch one if you ask.

If we're talking about Martin Hotze, I don't recall him offering me
free access to anything. I could be wrong, of course.

Web-based email takes a bit getting used to, but after a while it's
kind of nice having your email stored on a central server that is
accessible from anywhere, rather than downloading your email onto your
computer, ala Outlook (Express).
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I doubt you need to upgrade your hotel's Internet service even to get
email
and newsgroups *through your own ISP*.

Our hotel DSL lines are provided by Qwest. Our ISP is Mediacom, a
cable-modem company (which we have at home). It would be an extra
charge each month for email and newsgroup access through Qwest at the
hotel

So use your Mediacom accounts instead. I can use my email and newsgroup
accounts provided by my ISP from whatever Internet connection I choose. It
need not be my home DSL connection. I doubt your situation is different.

[...]
Google Groups actually isn't half bad, once you get used to it. It
doesn't offer the same level of filtering as Outlook (Express), but
I've only kill-filed one person in my 8+ years here, so that doesn't
bother me. And the search features can be quite valuable.

Hey, you're the one that called the "stupid Google Groups". Larry was just
trying to point out the error in your claim that you have no other
alternative.

If we're talking about Martin Hotze, I don't recall him offering me
free access to anything. I could be wrong, of course.

You are wrong. He did offer. Here's one post (there may be others):
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...dea2fc404af7aa

Web-based email takes a bit getting used to, but after a while it's
kind of nice having your email stored on a central server that is
accessible from anywhere, rather than downloading your email onto your
computer, ala Outlook (Express).

That's true. Most people who need access to email from multiple sources use
either web mail (as you do), or some other server-side solution (such as
Exchange), or they put their email message store on a USB drive so that they
can carry it with them from place to place. Any of those solutions work
fine.

If you are happy using web mail, then that's fine. The point is not that we
are trying to get you to switch. We are just trying to point out to you
that it's incorrect to claim that you don't have newsgroup or email access
from your hotel.

Pete

If yo have a web page you should have a pop 3 account. You should be able to
access that from anywhere. The newsgroups are different.
news and newsgroups *through your own ISP*.

Our hotel DSL lines are provided by Qwest. Our ISP is Mediacom, a
cable-modem company (which we have at home). It would be an extra
charge each month for email and newsgroup access through Qwest at the
hotel

So use your Mediacom accounts instead. I can use my email and newsgroup
accounts provided by my ISP from whatever Internet connection I choose.
It need not be my home DSL connection. I doubt your situation is
different.

[...]
Google Groups actually isn't half bad, once you get used to it. It
doesn't offer the same level of filtering as Outlook (Express), but
I've only kill-filed one person in my 8+ years here, so that doesn't
bother me. And the search features can be quite valuable.

Hey, you're the one that called the "stupid Google Groups". Larry was
just trying to point out the error in your claim that you have no other
alternative.

If we're talking about Martin Hotze, I don't recall him offering me
free access to anything. I could be wrong, of course.

You are wrong. He did offer. Here's one post (there may be others):
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...dea2fc404af7aa

Web-based email takes a bit getting used to, but after a while it's
kind of nice having your email stored on a central server that is
accessible from anywhere, rather than downloading your email onto your
computer, ala Outlook (Express).

That's true. Most people who need access to email from multiple sources
use either web mail (as you do), or some other server-side solution (such
as Exchange), or they put their email message store on a USB drive so that
they can carry it with them from place to place. Any of those solutions
work fine.

If you are happy using web mail, then that's fine. The point is not that
we are trying to get you to switch. We are just trying to point out to
you that it's incorrect to claim that you don't have newsgroup or email
access from your hotel.

Pete

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
...
If yo have a web page you should have a pop 3 account. You should be able
to access that from anywhere. The newsgroups are different.

Huh?

There is absolutely ZERO connection between whether one has a web page,
whether one has an email (POP3) account, and whether one has a news server
account. You can have any combination of all three.

My point is that in Jay's case, he has both an email account and a news
server account, and the fact that they are hosted by someone other than his
DSL provider should not stop him from using those accounts through his DSL
connection.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
...
If yo have a web page you should have a pop 3 account. You should be able
to access that from anywhere. The newsgroups are different.

Huh?

There is absolutely ZERO connection between whether one has a web page,
whether one has an email (POP3) account, and whether one has a news server
account. You can have any combination of all three.

My point is that in Jay's case, he has both an email account and a news
server account, and the fact that they are hosted by someone other than
his DSL provider should not stop him from using those accounts through his
DSL connection.

Pete
I agree.