Common instruments on small aircraft

Amongst my coworkers, it is no secret that I am now a Private Pilot. It is also no secret to them that I enjoy going to PWT for Fish and Chips, as I have told them on many occasions that I think they are some of the best around.

By the FAA's (twisted IMHO) logic, this can be considered "holding out".

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

If you are going and offer a ride, it isn't holding out. If
you tell your friends you'll take them where THEY want to
go, that is holding out. Post a notice on a bulletin board
at the store or on-line and you're open for business. Offer
a friend of long standing a ride and it isn't a charter or
commercial operation.

You can't even take a package for your boss, but you can
take your packages and samples.

"Hey, Fred, I'm going to xyz for lobster, want to go?" is
OK. Hey, everybody, you can ride with me to xyz for
lobster, share the cost!" isn't.


"Jose" wrote in message
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| Amongst my coworkers, it is no secret that I am now a
Private Pilot. It is also no secret to them that I enjoy
going to PWT for Fish and Chips, as I have told them on many
occasions that I think they are some of the best around.
|
| By the FAA's (twisted IMHO) logic, this can be considered
"holding out".
|
| Jose
| --
| "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you
can't see where
| it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry
Potter).
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

If you are going and offer a ride, it isn't holding out. If
you tell your friends you'll take them where THEY want to
go, that is holding out.

If you "make it known you are a pilot and like to fly", and get
"business" (flights) that way, you are holding out.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose writes:

If you "make it known you are a pilot and like to fly", and get
"business" (flights) that way, you are holding out.

The FAA must have a lot of time on its hands if it can worry about
trivia like this.

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"Wade Hasbrouck" wrote in
news:LNydnZoqtMjE0tnYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@cablespeedwa .com:

If you are "committing to friends and family to transport them", and
that is the only reason for the flight, you are now an "air taxi". Just
because I have a Private Pilot Certificate doesn't mean I can be a "taxi
service" for my friends and family and transport them around where ever
they want to go when they want to go.

So what you are saying is that if I give my sister a ride to LGA so she can
catch a commercial flight, I am considered a Taxi even if I don't ask for
compensation? Will the government require me to have a Hack License and a
Medallion?

Does that mean I can use the Taxi lanes instead of the Passenger Pick Up/Drop
off lanes?

"Wade Hasbrouck" wrote in message
news:LNydnZoqtMjE0tnYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@cablespeedwa .com...
If you are "committing to friends and family to transport them", and that
is
the only reason for the flight, you are now an "air taxi". Just because I
have a Private Pilot Certificate doesn't mean I can be a "taxi service"
for
my friends and family and transport them around where ever they want to go
when they want to go.

Has anyone considered the possibility that these supposed rules are pure
unadulterated bull**** and perhaps we should just ignore them? With this
type of logic, when my daughter finally goes off to college, I would not be
able to give her a lift up there in my own plane... It's a form of
transportation just like a car... Instead of trying to 'work around' the
rules, we should be revolting against this sort of bull****...

Instead of trying to 'work around' the
rules, we should be revolting against this sort of bull****...

Agreed. Got any ideas?

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Jose" wrote in message
et...
Agreed. Got any ideas?

Well, I think I'll let Grace pay for my fuel and dinner over at Carls BBQ
over at EYQ...

"Jose" wrote in message
et...

Instead of trying to 'work around' the rules, we should be revolting
against this sort of bull****...

Agreed. Got any ideas?

Civil disobedience, letter campaigning, public awareness drives, etc. The
GA community needs to remind the rest of the community that pilots, not
bureaucrats, are the experts of the sky. Otherwise, just do it and don't
get caught. If -everybody- defies the rule, it is no longer a rule.

-c

"Bart" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wade Hasbrouck wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote
If you have understanding passengers, fine. If they are going to a
wedding or job interview, though, this is a serious problem.

Again you are inferring that the Private Pilot can ignore FAR Part 91 and
FAR 61.113 when they want to help out friends. If a friend comes to me
and
says "I have a wedding or job interview to go to, could you fly me
there?",
this would most likely be considered a violation of 61.113, and would be
illegal for a Private Pilot to do.

That's absurd. Someone asking to be flown somewhere is in no way a
violation of the FARs. If it were, most GA pilots would be in violation
almost every time they fly.

Bart,

Who said the FAA rules aren't absurd?

A passenger cannot initiate a flight, that's the ruling, whether you or I
like it or not.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG