Regs regarding "VFR flight following?" (also: "need to vent")

I remember once coming back from Florida over Charlotte, SC in a friend's
PA-24-250. We'd been slow-baking at 10,500 for about 3 hours without O2, so we were
probably both a bit hypoxic. We were going to go right over the top (top is at
10.5)... they "refused," saying we could go to 12500 if we wanted. Unable, so we were
vectored 20 miles out of our way. No I know the "correct" way to hand this would be
to terminate radar services.

You were over the *top* of their airspace, and they vectored you 20
miles out of the way?

I'd have told them to pound salt. Politely, of course...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 10/27/06 13:59, Jay Honeck wrote:
I remember once coming back from Florida over Charlotte, SC in a friend's
PA-24-250. We'd been slow-baking at 10,500 for about 3 hours without O2, so we were
probably both a bit hypoxic. We were going to go right over the top (top is at
10.5)... they "refused," saying we could go to 12500 if we wanted. Unable, so we were
vectored 20 miles out of our way. No I know the "correct" way to hand this would be
to terminate radar services.

You were over the *top* of their airspace, and they vectored you 20
miles out of the way?

The way I read it, they weren't over the top, they were at the top. If they
flew over the top, they wouldn't have been at a legal VFR altitude.


I'd have told them to pound salt. Politely, of course...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

: You were over the *top* of their airspace, and they vectored you 20
: miles out of the way?

: I'd have told them to pound salt. Politely, of course...

Yep... at this point in time I wouldn't accept it either. At the time however, I was a green pilot flying a
friend's airplane, (with the friend right-seat) so I didn't know any better.

-Cory

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* Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA *
* Electrical Engineering *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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In article om,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

I remember once coming back from Florida over Charlotte, SC in a friend's
PA-24-250. We'd been slow-baking at 10,500 for about 3 hours without O2,
so we were
probably both a bit hypoxic. We were going to go right over the top (top
is at
10.5)... they "refused," saying we could go to 12500 if we wanted. Unable,
so we were
vectored 20 miles out of our way. No I know the "correct" way to hand this
would be
to terminate radar services.

You were over the *top* of their airspace, and they vectored you 20
miles out of the way?

I'd have told them to pound salt. Politely, of course...

500 above the top of a Class B is a pretty busy place. All those jets tend
to enter and exit the CBAS through the top. Depending on the arrival and
departure routes in use at the time, you may find yourself in the middle of
a very dense line of heavy metal.

Are you within your legal rights to blow off ATC's vector, squawk 1200, and
continue on your merry way fat, dumb, and happy? Sure you are. But legal
isn't always smart.

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
...

500 above the top of a Class B is a pretty busy place. All those jets
tend to enter and exit the CBAS through the top. Depending on the
arrival and departure routes in use at the time, you may find yourself in
the middle of a very dense line of heavy metal.

Are you within your legal rights to blow off ATC's vector, squawk 1200,
and continue on your merry way fat, dumb, and happy? Sure you are.
But legal isn't always smart.


Is the controller acting within his legal authority when he initiates
vectoring of a VFR aircraft 500' above the top of a Class B?