You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)

Larry Dighera wrote:
So, you just choose to call yourself a hobby pilot for no reason?

Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to imply
that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult. To me, "recreational activity in
which I regularly engage" is just a verbose way of saying "hobby",
so "hobby pilot" and "recreational pilot" are synonymous. (I would even
argue that "hobby" implies a certain frequency, while "recreational" just
means a one-off thing). Certainly, "hobby" to me has no negative
connotations.

Perhaps we have a classic case of "lost in translation". I would actually
consider the German word for recreational pilot - Freizeitpilot - as a
potentially more derogative term than Hobbypilot, certainly, the latter
implies a measure of dedication and seriousness that the former doesn't.
Since Stefan seems to be from Switzerland, he may experience the same
disconnect here.

So, anybody help us out?

Anno.

"Anno v. Heimburg" wrote in message
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Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to
imply
that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult. To me, "recreational activity in
which I regularly engage" is just a verbose way of saying "hobby",
so "hobby pilot" and "recreational pilot" are synonymous. (I would even
argue that "hobby" implies a certain frequency, while "recreational" just
means a one-off thing). Certainly, "hobby" to me has no negative
connotations.

The literal meaning of 'hobby' is just as you say, and is not disparaging.
However, words such as 'hobbyist' or 'amateur' are sometimes used to suggest
a superficial level of competence, in contrast with the presumed expertise
of a 'professional'. People may become defensive about that connotation.

--Gary

Gary,

However, words such as 'hobbyist' or 'amateur' are sometimes used to suggest
a superficial level of competence, in contrast with the presumed expertise
of a 'professional'.


The author Robert Littel makes extensive use of the definition of a
professional of someone that is of the opinion that if something is worth doing
at all, it is worth doing well, IIRC.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Anno v. Heimburg" wrote in message
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Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to
imply
that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult. To me, "recreational activity
in
which I regularly engage" is just a verbose way of saying "hobby",
so "hobby pilot" and "recreational pilot" are synonymous. (I would even
argue that "hobby" implies a certain frequency, while "recreational"
just
means a one-off thing). Certainly, "hobby" to me has no negative
connotations.

The literal meaning of 'hobby' is just as you say, and is not disparaging.
However, words such as 'hobbyist' or 'amateur' are sometimes used to
suggest
a superficial level of competence, in contrast with the presumed expertise
of a 'professional'. People may become defensive about that connotation.

--Gary

Here is my definition

Professional Pilot - Gets paid for flying. Salary + Equipment provided.

Pilot - May or may not get paid for flying (usually has to bear all the
expenses himself -herself).

Level of competence doesn't play a part. However if someone was paying for
my training and expenses and providing the aircraft I would fly 1000+
hours/year and my level of proficiency would be higher than it is now

Howard C182P

"Gary Drescher" wrote

The literal meaning of 'hobby' is just as you say, and is not disparaging.
However, words such as 'hobbyist' or 'amateur' are sometimes used to suggest a
superficial level of competence, in contrast with the presumed expertise of a
'professional'. People may become defensive about that connotation.

Right. It could be that it is because we think of a hobby as play. No one
wants to think of themselves as "playing" at flying.
--
Jim in NC

Anno v. Heimburg schrieb:

Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to imply
that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult.

Although not a native English speaker, I think I understand those
connotations sufficiently well. Which doesn't prevent me from finding
this discussion ridiculous, though. But then, I don't believe that small
persons become bigger when you call them vertically challenged, either.

Stefan

I don't know why I'm having so much difficulty conveying the idea that
airmen should not be, or bee seen to be, dilettantes, but because the
general public tacitly agrees to the potential hazard of our piloting
our mechanical equipment over their property and persons, airman must
be seen by the lay public as exercising prudence, respect, and a
professional diligence in pursuing aviation. Anything less invites
public ridicule of airmen....