Lancair Legacy

On 30 Oct 2006 21:38:13 -0800, "abripl" wrote:

Hey Bill,

Do I detect some humor here?

Most of us are concerned with general fuel savings - not just for our
own

I bought the Deb to play. I'm building the G-III to play.
The only time it runs under 75% is when maneuvering, practicing,
rought air, or landing.

immediate savings. But you know that higher general consumption results
in higher prices at the pumps which means the poor guys (most of us)
indirectly pay for the "enjoyment" of those with lots of money. So
let's have
prudent enjoyment.

I leave the 18 mpg SUV home and drive my wife's 48 mpg Prius. I only
drive the 4 Runner when I need to haul something messy, or she's gone
with her car. So even if I take a trip and run the Deb for all she's
worth I still save gas.


Badwater Bill wrote:
Oh come on you guys, you can't justify any of this. These modern,
expensive airplanes are no different that owning a boat or even a Lear
Jet.

It's not a neccesity, it's not something required to enjoy life. If
you can't own it and just go burn all the gas you want to burn through
it, you shouldn't even get it. Anyway, that's the way I feel.

I didn't buy it so I could get 20 mpg out of it. It's just
interesting that I do. ...............
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger (K8RI) wrote:
I leave the 18 mpg SUV home and drive my wife's 48 mpg Prius. I only
drive the 4 Runner when I need to haul something messy, or she's gone
with her car. So even if I take a trip and run the Deb for all she's
worth I still save gas.

Now all I need is to buy a second larger plane for ocasional larger
hauling or when my wife wants to fly separately at same time. Otherwise
of course I will use my smaller canard for most flying.

On 31 Oct 2006 17:42:26 -0800, "abripl" wrote:


Roger (K8RI) wrote:
I leave the 18 mpg SUV home and drive my wife's 48 mpg Prius. I only
drive the 4 Runner when I need to haul something messy, or she's gone
with her car. So even if I take a trip and run the Deb for all she's
worth I still save gas.

Now all I need is to buy a second larger plane for ocasional larger
hauling or when my wife wants to fly separately at same time. Otherwise
of course I will use my smaller canard for most flying.

Hmmm... I only have one and a quarter airplanes. I'm not even half way
there yet and the G-III will have a larger engine than the old Deb.
OTH it should go a lot farther on the same gas.

BTW I see some environmental groups are pushing for the elimination of
lead in Avgas. Then I won't be able to use either engine.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
BTW I see some environmental groups are pushing for the elimination of
lead in Avgas. Then I won't be able to use either engine.

Reset the timing and use different power settings. Some parts of the world
already don't have avgas (and no FAA to stifle experimenting).

D.

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:28:45 GMT, "Capt.Doug"
wrote:

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
BTW I see some environmental groups are pushing for the elimination of
lead in Avgas. Then I won't be able to use either engine.

Reset the timing and use different power settings. Some parts of the world
already don't have avgas (and no FAA to stifle experimenting).

With that high compression engine? You can't even get an STC for an
alternative fuel.



D.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger (K8RI) wrote:
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:28:45 GMT, "Capt.Doug"
wrote:

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
BTW I see some environmental groups are pushing for the elimination of
lead in Avgas. Then I won't be able to use either engine.

Reset the timing and use different power settings. Some parts of the world
already don't have avgas (and no FAA to stifle experimenting).

With that high compression engine? You can't even get an STC for an
alternative fuel.

Time to get GAMI back on the stick and get PRISM certified. Then your
engine would run on Jet-A okay. Trouble is, with their new contracts
with Cirrus, I'm afraid PRISM is small potatoes on the back burner.

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
With that high compression engine? You can't even get an STC for an
alternative fuel.

Where STCs are not a consideration, high RPMs and less than full MAP can
allow the use of autogas. Performance may take a hit, and sometimes timing
must be retarded for the turbocharged engines, but it works. I ran autogas
in my first Aztec (NOT US registered!!!!!!) for years. The only difference
was that I had to turn on the boost pumps on above 7000' for vapor lock.

D.

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 02:58:44 GMT, "Capt.Doug"
wrote:

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
With that high compression engine? You can't even get an STC for an
alternative fuel.

Where STCs are not a consideration, high RPMs and less than full MAP can
allow the use of autogas. Performance may take a hit, and sometimes timing

To me performance is paramount.
I'm building the G-III to go as fast as possible. Long haul and some
serious play.

I don't even run the Debonair under 75% except for maneuvers, a rough
ride, and landing. That engine IO-47N (260 HP) doesn't qualify for an
STC either. My goal is to get similar HP to the one shown in
KitPlanes this month.

must be retarded for the turbocharged engines, but it works. I ran autogas
in my first Aztec (NOT US registered!!!!!!) for years. The only difference
was that I had to turn on the boost pumps on above 7000' for vapor lock.

D.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com