Common instruments on small aircraft

"Bart" wrote in news:1162329774.342372.325560
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Judah wrote:
Are you instrument rated? If you are not instrument rated, then I agree
that flying GA is not dependable. Get your Instrument Rating and you will
see a whole other level of practicality to GA.

I'm not instrument rating and I agree that IR pilots will have more
flexibility with weather. But I believe the larger percentage of GA
pilots are not IR. And the while IR pilots have *more* flexibility, in
most cases, it is still not as reliable as commercial or ground
transportation.

If your purpose for flying is as a reliable mode of transportation, wouldn't
you do what is necessary to ensure it as such?

Would you stay with a learner's permit and complain that you can't drive at
night or on highways?

Judah writes:

If your purpose for flying is as a reliable mode of transportation, wouldn't
you do what is necessary to ensure it as such?

Yes ... which implies that pilots without an instrument rating aren't
really serious about using aircraft for transportation, no matter what
they might claim.

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Judah writes:

If your purpose for flying is as a reliable mode of transportation,
wouldn't you do what is necessary to ensure it as such?

Yes ... which implies that pilots without an instrument rating aren't
really serious about using aircraft for transportation, no matter what
they might claim.

That depends on their needs for transportation, no? Many people have more
than one mode of transportation available to them. A byciclist that
doens't own snow tires because they don't intend to ride to work in the
winter can still be serious about using their bike for transportation.
This "all or nothing" notion that either an aircraft should totally
replace another vehicle or it's not serious transportation is just plain
absurd; there are times to fly, times to drive, and times to take a
commercial flight, and they don't have to overlap at all.

Neil

Neil Gould writes:

That depends on their needs for transportation, no?

Outside the category of meteorologists, the need for transportation is
independent of the weather. Therefore someone who cannot fly in just
about any weather cannot provide reliable transportation.

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Neil Gould writes:

That depends on their needs for transportation, no?

Outside the category of meteorologists, the need for transportation is
independent of the weather. Therefore someone who cannot fly in just
about any weather cannot provide reliable transportation.

This is not usually true. One can't necessarily ride a bike in "just about
any weather", yet the bike can generally be considered "reliable
transportation". Your argument is not valid.

Neil

Neil Gould writes:

This is not usually true. One can't necessarily ride a bike in "just about
any weather", yet the bike can generally be considered "reliable
transportation". Your argument is not valid.

There are very few types of weather that will stop a bicycle. A VFR
flight is stopped by a fluffy little cloud.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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There are very few types of weather that will stop a bicycle. A VFR
flight is stopped by a fluffy little cloud.

As usual WRONG AGAIN.

If it's a puffy LITTLE cloud as you describe, just fly around it.

Allen

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Neil Gould writes:

This is not usually true. One can't necessarily ride a bike in "just about
any weather", yet the bike can generally be considered "reliable
transportation". Your argument is not valid.

There are very few types of weather that will stop a bicycle. A VFR
flight is stopped by a fluffy little cloud.

You try so hard to justify your fear of flying, but sophomoric statements
like the above simply prove your complete and total ignorance, and separation
from reality.

It certainly helps to explain your handle.

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Neil Gould writes:

That depends on their needs for transportation, no?

Outside the category of meteorologists, the need for transportation is
independent of the weather. Therefore someone who cannot fly in just
about any weather cannot provide reliable transportation.


I just looked up the days annually that were clear, partly cloudy and cloudy
for the nearest city to me I could find at
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/...ccd/clpcdy.txt . In this case
Little Rock Arkansas. Over the last 35 years they've averaged 119 clear, 100
partly cloudy and 147 cloudy. The vast majority of the clear and partly
cloudy would be VFR and a fairly large number of the cloudy days would be
VFR.

Sure there are days that you just can't fly without a IFR rating for that
matter there are days that you can't fly with an IFR rating. But guess what
there are days that I've been on commercial flight that I would have been
better off in a car. But with just a little bit of flexibility a VFR pilot
can and do on a regular basis use GA for reliable transportation.

I'm still better off seeing 4 of my clients tomorrow than I would be driving
and seeing 2 today and 2 the next and having to stay in a hotel on the night
in between.