How do you find the limits of areas on a chart?

"Sylvain" wrote in message
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You can spot miles away engineers who did learn with
slide rules from those who didn't

Yeah, we have greyer hair -- what is left of it...

B A R R Y wrote:
MSFS has a large tree in the center of the final approach path to the
busiest runway on my home field. G

The main landmarks, a small lake, two large plazas, a main road, and a
large trailer park are missing.

Well, obviously your airport area is wrong and MSFS is right...

Don Tuite wrote:
Seen this?

http://www.antiquark.com/sliderule/s...l-n909-es.html

Boy does that bring back memories!

BTW, I still use my pocket-size plastic circular slide rule on occasion
because the back of it has the periodic table of the elements and the
plastic insert has a whole bunch of conversion constants for length, area,
mass, force, volume, velocity, flow rate, pressure, energy, and a bunch of
common physical constants and common equations.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

http://www.flightstore.co.uk/images/...rop_1_1241.jpg

Thanks. Still looks a bit awkward to use in flight. I mean, you have
to manipulate the device and the chart at the same time, and you have
no table, and you still have to fly the plane. It looks very awkward.

You do your flight planning before take-off.

But what if the plan must change during the flight?

That's part of the PTS requirement for a private pilot checkride before
they get their certificate. You start out with a great plan to go
somewhere and after they get past their 3rd checkpoint or so, you
change their destination. The applicant is required to give you
1)heading to new destiation 2) ETA (not time enroute) 3) fuel required.
-Robert, CFII

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

right now I'm spending ALL my extra cash getting that pile of
aluminum in my hanger ready for flight.

My co-owner thinks he just found us a faster pile of aluminum.

I'm happy, but we just got the Slowdowner as "perfect" as I care... G

Sylvain writes:

No they are not; well, ok, you are half right he they
are considered obsolte but it's a darn shame. You can spot
miles away engineers who did learn with slide rules from
those who didn't, but I digress.

This particular aviation use is a good example of situations in which
slide rules still have advantages, but unfortunately these situations
are rare.

I do; never runs out of batteries, always there, and easy
to use;

True for slide rules in general, but they seem to have disappeared
just the same. People like new and shiny gadgets.

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Dave Stadt writes:

Sounds like your toy isn't very realistic and definately does not represent
real flight.

It is much more similar than different.

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Judah writes:

If you've never seen the real thing, how can you make this statement?

We sent a man successfully to the moon without ever having been there.

You were the one that indicated that there aren't very many landmarks, even
though in real life there are, so this statement contradicts your other
posts.

It doesn't matter how many you see in real life if none of them are
referenced on the chart.

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Judah writes:

But if you are driving somewhere you haven't been before, you might have a
map and use it to navigate to your destination, right?

Very rarely. I usually use a GPS. If I don't have that, I follow
signs. If I must resort to a map, I have to pull over and stop the
car.

Does this cause you to tumble down the mountainside?

No, because I'm not moving when I consult the map. Unfortunately,
stopping an aircraft in mid-flight is much more difficult.

There are many monocular cues to depth perception that are not effectively
simulated.

Which ones?

And yet somehow, miraculously, pilots do this on a regular basis, and even
before there was GPS! Perhaps we know something you don't.

If so, you don't seem to be willing or able to explain it, since
that's the whole purpose of this thread.

Visibility out the side windows in real life is pretty good. I haven't
played with MSFS since the 98 version, but back then the default
perspective out the window in a Cessna was SIGNIFICANTLY different and more
restrictive than in the real world. I had to make several adjustments to
the settings that control the angle of perspective, and I had to reduce the
size of the control panel to even come close.

Things have changed a lot since FS 98.

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Marty Shapiro writes:

In YOUR sim you need to hit buttons to look out the windows. There
are sims which do not have that drawback.

Unfortunately, of the PC-based sims, the others have many drawbacks
that MSFS does not.

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