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Old November 3rd 06, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default How do you find the limits of areas on a chart?

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Sure they can if they are two different skill sets.


If they are sufficiently different. I'm not convinced that they are.

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Old November 3rd 06, 10:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Sure they can if they are two different skill sets.


If they are sufficiently different. I'm not convinced that they are.


Well let's look at qualifications to see, between the two of us is best
qualified to make that judgment.

I own and have used MSFS 2004.

You own and have used MSFS 2004.

I hold a certificate from the Federal Aviation Administration that says I'm
qualified to operate both Aircraft Single Engine-Land and
Rotorcraft-Helicopter.

You own and have used MSFS 2004.


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Old November 4th 06, 12:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Sure they can if they are two different skill sets.


If they are sufficiently different. I'm not convinced that they are.


Well let's look at qualifications to see, between the two of us is best
qualified to make that judgment.

I own and have used MSFS 2004.

You own and have used MSFS 2004.

I hold a certificate from the Federal Aviation Administration that says
I'm qualified to operate both Aircraft Single Engine-Land and
Rotorcraft-Helicopter.

You own and have used MSFS 2004.



It should be pointed out that in order to behold that certificate, you had
to have a certain number of hours of training with a certified instructor,
and then had to demonstrate your ability to perform certain manuevers
within certain standard levels of tolerance.

Manic had to shell out $30 on EBay.
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Old November 4th 06, 07:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Judah writes:

It should be pointed out that in order to behold that certificate, you had
to have a certain number of hours of training with a certified instructor,
and then had to demonstrate your ability to perform certain manuevers
within certain standard levels of tolerance.


But you don't have to be able to fly a plane safely, as so many
accidents prove.

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Old November 4th 06, 11:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Judah writes:

It should be pointed out that in order to behold that certificate, you
had
to have a certain number of hours of training with a certified
instructor,
and then had to demonstrate your ability to perform certain manuevers
within certain standard levels of tolerance.


But you don't have to be able to fly a plane safely, as so many
accidents prove.


Name a test of a skill, that involves potential great danger, that is
infallible. Idiot.

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Old November 4th 06, 01:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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But you don't have to be able to fly a plane safely, as so many
accidents prove.


You have to be able to demonstrate that you can fly a plane safely before
getting your certificate. That is the stated detailed mission of the
Practical Test Standards.

The accidents only prove that human beings don't always do what they can.
Perhaps they encounter situations that are beyond their control and/or
capability, perhaps they make mistakes, or perhaps they are arrogant cowboys
and decide they can do what they want.

The same could be said about automobile accidents. The holder of a driver's
license has demonstrated that the s/he can drive safely and is aware of the
basic rules. And yet, the idea that those rules can be broken is so
institutionalized, the government has produced a "point" system that allows
drivers to be CAUGHT as many as 12 times before their privileges are taken
away. The system is so institutionalized that some believe certain speed
zones have been installed not for safety, but for revenue production.

The same cannot be said of airspace safety.
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Old November 4th 06, 02:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default How do you find the limits of areas on a chart?

Judah writes:

The accidents only prove that human beings don't always do what they can.
Perhaps they encounter situations that are beyond their control and/or
capability, perhaps they make mistakes, or perhaps they are arrogant cowboys
and decide they can do what they want.


It is also both possible and probable that the tests given to
prospective pilots are insufficiently accurate in predicting the
ability of a pilot to handle real-world situations.

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Old November 4th 06, 05:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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It is also both possible and probable that the tests given to
prospective pilots are insufficiently accurate in predicting the
ability of a pilot to handle real-world situations.


What, exactly, is the probability of that? And what is your source of
information to have defined that probability?
 




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