How do you find the limits of areas on a chart?

Mxsmanic wrote:

True for slide rules in general, but they seem to have disappeared
just the same. People like new and shiny gadgets.

and they are becoming difficult to find; I have been shopping for
a decent slide rule (and a sextant by the way -- no, I am not
happy with what westmarine has in stock) for a while... you do
find stuff like that in garage sales sometimes when you are lucky
though.

--Sylvain

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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B A R R Y writes:

Not only "can you", but you must! G Training cross countries are
chosen, planned and flown by the student.

How far do you have to fly, and in what way, in order for it to count
as a "cross-country" flight?

(2) Except as provided in Sec. 61.110 of this part, 3 hours of night
flight training in a single-engine airplane that includes--
(i) One cross-country flight of over 100 nautical miles total
distance; and


(i) 5 hours of solo cross-country time;
(ii) One solo cross-country flight of at least 150 nautical miles
total distance, with full-stop landings at a minimum of three points,
and one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of
at least 50 nautical miles between the takeoff and landing locations;
and


Whatever I need, depending on the situation at hand. I take pride and
put a lot of thought and effort into my ATC contacts, so I'm rarely
denied. In fact, I can't remember my last ATC request that was denied,
and I deal with the NY & BOS folks often.

I've read that Class B airspaces are not happy to see GA traffic.


Class B ATC controllers are much like this newsgroup. If you have a clue
there usually isn't a problem.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Sylvain writes:

about 8 bucks; and I religiously replace the one where I fly regularly

So you just need one sectional that you use for the majority of your
flying?

yes, a sectional covers quite a bit of territory; now of course,
Murphy's law has it that you will always live near the boundary of
two charts and hunce will need to buy both of them each time :-)

How much does that cost?

I don't remember, I pay an annual subscription, except that it
is drastically cheaper than keeping the equivalent sectional
up to date; you can look it up yourself he
http://www.airchart.com/


I buy the terminal charts and AF/D separately though.

How much are they?

terminal about 8 bucks too; and the AF/D booklet
about 5 bucks (but it covers a larger territory than a
sectional)


How much do you spend a month overall just updating charts?

I don't really want to know :-)))

--Sylvain

What kind of slide rule are you looking to get?



"Sylvain" wrote in message
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| Mxsmanic wrote:
|
| True for slide rules in general, but they seem to have
disappeared
| just the same. People like new and shiny gadgets.
|
| and they are becoming difficult to find; I have been
shopping for
| a decent slide rule (and a sextant by the way -- no, I am
not
| happy with what westmarine has in stock) for a while...
you do
| find stuff like that in garage sales sometimes when you
are lucky
| though.
|
| --Sylvain

Mxsmanic wrote:
Dave Stadt writes:
Sounds like your toy isn't very realistic and definitely
does not represent real flight.

It is much more similar than different.

Your reference point re real flight...is??? I've been flying
since 1975, am instrument-rated, have shot a legal (no cheat) ILS
approach in conditions where a Citation and a King Air missed in
sequence in front of me. For-real flying. Slower approach speed
made the difference, and I even planned on that to surprised
success. Shot a similar one at Charlie West. Exactly on
centerline, but all one dot high, my preference. The viz was so
bad, Ground had trouble giving me taxi instructions. Couldn't
see me.

Conversely, have all versions of the MS toy; was 1.0 around 1983?
10 joysticks and 3 control wheels/rudder pedals. Half-dozen
utilities to tweak the flight models to utter frustration. Yet I
cannot fly an idiot visual pattern in the M$ toy with a 172-class
airplane. Please help me! Bill Gates is out to slowly destroy
my confidence aloft.

F--

Sylvain wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:

True for slide rules in general, but they seem to have disappeared
just the same. People like new and shiny gadgets.

Actually slide rules are still in use in medical, photo, printing,
building situations. It's a lot easier, cheaper, safer to carry around
a small plastic disc to make common calcuations or lookups.

and they are becoming difficult to find; I have been shopping for
a decent slide rule (and a sextant by the way -- no, I am not
happy with what westmarine has in stock) for a while... you do
find stuff like that in garage sales sometimes when you are lucky
though.

I assume you belong to the Oughtred Society for the preservation of
slide rules and other mechanical calculators?

www.oughtred.org

And of course the International Slide Rule Group?

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sliderule/

Best, Kev

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Judah writes:

If you've never seen the real thing, how can you make this statement?

We sent a man successfully to the moon without ever having been there.

What exactly does that have to do with your claimed ability to compare two
experiences even though you haven't experienced both of them?

Are you a Voyeur?

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Judah writes:

But if you are driving somewhere you haven't been before, you might
have a map and use it to navigate to your destination, right?

Very rarely. I usually use a GPS. If I don't have that, I follow
signs. If I must resort to a map, I have to pull over and stop the
car.

What, exactly, do you see on your GPS? Do you see, perhaps, an electrically
depicted map? How is that you are able to follow a map and set of
directions written on a 2" LCD screen, and yet you can't do the same if it
is on paper?

Perhaps you are handicapped in some way.

Does this cause you to tumble down the mountainside?

No, because I'm not moving when I consult the map. Unfortunately,
stopping an aircraft in mid-flight is much more difficult.

Not in the Sim.

And yet somehow, miraculously, pilots do this on a regular basis, and
even before there was GPS! Perhaps we know something you don't.

If so, you don't seem to be willing or able to explain it, since
that's the whole purpose of this thread.

No, we have explained it numerous times. You simply refuse to accept our
explanation as a possibility because you have a differing experience. But
your differing experience is based on a simulation, which does not
accurately simulate the full piloting experience. And it's based on
assumptions that are innacurate and without basis.

Your refusal to accept our explanation is a failure on your part, not ours.

Things have changed a lot since FS 98.

Can you be more specific? What is different between FS98 and the latest
version of MSFS?

The differences that I am aware of a Multi-Player/Networkable , ATC
Simulation, Traffic Simulation, additional aircraft (eg: Mooney). None of
these would seem to relate to the simulation experience itself or the
position of the panel and windows on the screen...

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Judah writes:

MOAs are not restrictive in nature.

I said "restricted areas or MOAs."

Yes, but you also seem to be extraordinarily concerned with the possibility
of flying through a non-restrictive area.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Sure they can if they are two different skill sets.

If they are sufficiently different. I'm not convinced that they are.


Well let's look at qualifications to see, between the two of us is best
qualified to make that judgment.

I own and have used MSFS 2004.

You own and have used MSFS 2004.

I hold a certificate from the Federal Aviation Administration that says
I'm qualified to operate both Aircraft Single Engine-Land and
Rotorcraft-Helicopter.

You own and have used MSFS 2004.



It should be pointed out that in order to behold that certificate, you had
to have a certain number of hours of training with a certified instructor,
and then had to demonstrate your ability to perform certain manuevers
within certain standard levels of tolerance.

Manic had to shell out $30 on EBay.