ASG-29 versus Ventus 2CX

It's not likely that you will be able to get both sides of the story
from 1 single individual on this request because most people who can
afford to by an 18 meter motor glider are conservative by nature; once
they find something they like, they stick to it. (Me a
conservative....Who Knew?) Only a few of us can afford to have both a
ASG 29 and a V2cx. It is common knowledge who's gliders wings change
shape shortly after delivery and who's don't.

I have a V2cxm. It is my 3rd Ventus motor glider, in a row. Vcm,
V2cm and V2cxm. So I have experienced the "aerodynamic evolution"
on the Ventus 18 meter line. From my perspective the VcM ran very well
and she could climb once I learned her nuances but climbing was an
acquired skill which took me a while, a very pleasurable while I might
say.... The V2c climbed like a homesick angle hands off, however my
impression was that the run was slightly sacrificed for the climb
because of the diverging lift vectors at the tip with all that
dihedral. Now they really got right with the V2cx... She climbs AND
she runs, with sweet control harmony on all axis.

Thanks my experience with the Ventus line.....

What's great is that it's a self launcher too....Well isn't that
CONVENIENT...

The ASG looks impressive, I stood by the runway at Ionia as Rudy
Mosher landed next to me and it was the prettiest slowest, shortest
land I can recall. Very nice....

John Sullivan UFO
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"UFO" wrote in message
ups.com...
It is common knowledge who's gliders wings change
shape shortly after delivery and who's don't.


John Sullivan UFO
.


While I didn't know about this when I ordered my ship 5 years ago, some
purchasers have insisted the manufacturer oven cure the wings a second time,
this to help insure the wing profile has a better chance of remaining
constant post delivery.

My ASH26E wings show no signs of change and there no cracks either even with
climbs high into Sierra wave (though cracking doesn't seem to be the issue
on AS ships that it has been on some others).

bumper

Proudly saving up for a new Wankel engine (should that ever be needed) by
selling five dollar Quit Vent kits and MKII yaw strings to millions of
glider pilots everywhere (g).

Bumper, the ASH-26 wing is dry. As I understand teh problem is when
you fill the 27 or 29's wings with water. Schempp has been building
wet wings for many generations of gliders, while AS is somewhat new to
wet wing construction.

On Nov 4, 10:02 am, "bumper" wrote:
"UFO" wrote in oglegroups.com...
It is common knowledge who's gliders wings change

shape shortly after delivery and who's don't.

John Sullivan UFO
.While I didn't know about this when I ordered my ship 5 years ago, some
purchasers have insisted the manufacturer oven cure the wings a second time,
this to help insure the wing profile has a better chance of remaining
constant post delivery.

My ASH26E wings show no signs of change and there no cracks either even with
climbs high into Sierra wave (though cracking doesn't seem to be the issue
on AS ships that it has been on some others).

bumper

Proudly saving up for a new Wankel engine (should that ever be needed) by
selling five dollar Quit Vent kits and MKII yaw strings to millions of
glider pilots everywhere (g).

wrote:
Dear Marc:

Thank you for your comments, however, may I suggest to you that I
really know why I am asking the specific question I am asking.

I am looking for an intelligent unbiassed discussion about only V2CX
versus ASG-29.

I do not know if I can be intelligent about it but I try to respond to
your subject line. The ASG29 is in character very much like the ASW26
or 27 same airfoil. Since the 27 competed successfully in many 18m
contests, the
29 should do very well too. The cockpit of the 29 is the market
standard.
The quality and execution is excellent (but for the spar shrinkage)

The Ventus has similar performance and is admired by a lot of folks
around the globe for its handling and ease of thermaling.

If I had the money and the spar problem gets resolved (I understand
they are working on it) I would go with the ASG 29.

I fly an ASW24, but do not call me bias.
There are other gliders I admire but I tried to just stick with the
subject line.
Udo