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![]() Dear Marc: Thank you for your comments, however, may I suggest to you that I really know why I am asking the specific question I am asking. I am looking for an intelligent unbiassed discussion about only V2CX versus ASG-29. |
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Why would a buyer who is putting up 120K plus be biased? We put up the
money and there is no return to being brand loyal. The buyer should control. I have owned gliders from AS and SH, no bias only want the best my dollars can buy. So I ask again, if you wanted to buy the best for racing 15/18 which glider? Go for it. Good luck with finding an unbiased discussion, there are few things more biased than choosing one glider brand over another... |
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Pilots come in all shapes. Measurements of cockpits can be deceptive, as
width depends on fore-and-aft position. You must try it on! As to competition sucess, it somewhat depends on weather. the Southeast is different than the Southwest. To be scientific, go to the SSA web page and review all of last years 18m contests--regional and National. Then figure the number of "29s and the number of V2s in the top quartile, divided by the number of entries of each. This should give you the proportion of each glider in the top quartile---The results should be interesting and enlightening. In strong weather---the 15m and 18m ships with high wing loading do well. In anemic weather the 18m ships with lighter wing loading do well. Good luck in your quest---I really don't think you would go far wrong either way -- Hartley Falbaum DG800B "KF" USA/prev ASW27B "KF" USA wrote in message oups.com... Why would a buyer who is putting up 120K plus be biased? We put up the money and there is no return to being brand loyal. The buyer should control. I have owned gliders from AS and SH, no bias only want the best my dollars can buy. So I ask again, if you wanted to buy the best for racing 15/18 which glider? Go for it. Good luck with finding an unbiased discussion, there are few things more biased than choosing one glider brand over another... |
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Jim Hultman wrote:
Hey Marc, Finally you've posted an intelligent reply to her original question, instead of running her down for having more $$ than you. Who was running her down? I buy the prettiest glider I can fit into, with the bucks that I have, just like almost everyone else. If she hasn't figured that out yet, endlessly posting the same questions isn't going to get her an answer... Marc |
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Jim Hultman wrote:
Hey Marc, Finally you've posted an intelligent reply to her original question, instead of running her down for having more $$ than you. Who was running her down? I buy the prettiest glider I can fit into, with the bucks that I have, just like almost everyone else. If she hasn't figured that out yet, endlessly posting the same questions isn't going to get her an answer... Marc |
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![]() It's not likely that you will be able to get both sides of the story from 1 single individual on this request because most people who can afford to by an 18 meter motor glider are conservative by nature; once they find something they like, they stick to it. (Me a conservative....Who Knew?) Only a few of us can afford to have both a ASG 29 and a V2cx. It is common knowledge who's gliders wings change shape shortly after delivery and who's don't. I have a V2cxm. It is my 3rd Ventus motor glider, in a row. Vcm, V2cm and V2cxm. So I have experienced the "aerodynamic evolution" on the Ventus 18 meter line. From my perspective the VcM ran very well and she could climb once I learned her nuances but climbing was an acquired skill which took me a while, a very pleasurable while I might say.... The V2c climbed like a homesick angle hands off, however my impression was that the run was slightly sacrificed for the climb because of the diverging lift vectors at the tip with all that dihedral. Now they really got right with the V2cx... She climbs AND she runs, with sweet control harmony on all axis. Thanks my experience with the Ventus line..... What's great is that it's a self launcher too....Well isn't that CONVENIENT... The ASG looks impressive, I stood by the runway at Ionia as Rudy Mosher landed next to me and it was the prettiest slowest, shortest land I can recall. Very nice.... John Sullivan UFO .. |
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