What essentials do you always have on board?

On 5 Nov 2006 21:46:37 -0800, wrote:

Grumman-581 wrote:
.. Since I always have a .45 on
me, I guess that counts also... Usually don't have 50 rounds in my plane
though... I might have 1000 rounds of various calibers in my truck or
Jeep, but I don't carry that many in my plane... Sounds like I need to
restock...

If you need more than five or six you are going to be in a heap of
hurt.


I am so very thankful I live in New Zealand.

Why?

People carrying guns? Most of us had to go through a training class
to get the permit, but with the exception of the *really* liberal
states most now have right to carry laws. The crime rate has gone
down in every one of those that have passed such laws.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

People carrying guns? Most of us had to go through a training class
to get the permit, but with the exception of the *really* liberal
states most now have right to carry laws. The crime rate has gone
down in every one of those that have passed such laws.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:53:59 -0500, "LWG"
wrote:

Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

Yah, but I thought that was the norm for Miami International for
years. Looking at the neighborhoods you have to go through I almost
wanted an escorte.

OTOH that's how the neighbors get their new cars.


People carrying guns? Most of us had to go through a training class
to get the permit, but with the exception of the *really* liberal
states most now have right to carry laws. The crime rate has gone
down in every one of those that have passed such laws.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"LWG" wrote in message
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Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my luggage
to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be using... If
it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get the rental
car...

Grumman-581 wrote:

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my
luggage to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be
using... If it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get
the rental car...

ok, I know this is getting quite a bit OT, but I am curious: who
issues carry permits (counties? states? I thought it was the county)
and can you still carry when leaving this jurisdiction?

--Sylvain

"Sylvain" wrote in message
t...
Grumman-581 wrote:

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my
luggage to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be
using... If it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get
the rental car...

ok, I know this is getting quite a bit OT, but I am curious: who
issues carry permits (counties? states? I thought it was the county)
and can you still carry when leaving this jurisdiction?

--Sylvain

Many are issued by the states and in many of those states CC laws there are
reciprocity clauses. I'm sure there are some places where the county sheriff
issues the permits and some others that it is issued by the city. Those
county and city are generally the places where you have to know somebody to
get one.

Most of the state laws are "Shall Issue" laws where the permit MUST be
issued unless there is a reason for it not to be issued and legitimate
reasons are spelled out in the law.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...
Many are issued by the states and in many of those states CC laws there
are
reciprocity clauses.

And for those leftist places that don't, there is always the SHALL NOT BE
INFRINGED clause of the 2nd Amendment...

Sylvain wrote:
Grumman-581 wrote:

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my
luggage to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be
using... If it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get
the rental car...

ok, I know this is getting quite a bit OT, but I am curious: who
issues carry permits (counties? states? I thought it was the county)
and can you still carry when leaving this jurisdiction?

They're nearly all governed by state law. Generally the permit is
mandated and requirements set and forms standardized at the state level,
and the actual approval process is at the local level (city or county).

Generally, the permit is valid throughout the state it's for, although I
think there are a couple of exceptions in a couple of states. (Um,
there are often specific places which are all prohibited, like the
secure zone at airports for example; by "throughout" I just mean that
there aren't entire cities that are different -- usually.)

And then most states have at least some kind of reciprocity with some
other states. I've carried in KY and TN on my MN permit, entirely
legally (I have to conform to the laws of the state I'm actually in, and
it's my responsibility to find out what those are; in addition to
research, I was with local permit-holders).

Then there are out-of-state permits; if I traveled to Florida regularly
I'd get a Florida permit, and as another poster recently mentioned,
transfer my gun from my luggage to my holster when I got in the rental
car, or even back in the airport terminal (generally a permit-holder is
legal carrying in the *non-secure* portions of even major commercial
airports). Florida also happens to be the most widely accepted permit;
a Florida permit would let me carry in a bunch of states I can't carry
in now; but I essentially never visit any of them.

As you may have noticed, lots of this is a matter of state law. And
ignorance is no excuse.

And let us not forget Vermont and Alaska, which have no requirement for
permits to carry. If you can legally own the gun, you can legally carry
it. Seems like a civilized arrangement to me.

The people of Florida would probably appreciate your travel there more
frequently. I think they have a few more of the predatory class left.

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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"LWG" wrote in message
. ..
Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a
right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my
luggage
to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be using... If
it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get the rental
car...

"LWG" wrote in message
. ..
The people of Florida would probably appreciate your travel there more
frequently. I think they have a few more of the predatory class left.

The nice thing about Florida is that they have plenty of gators for body
disposal...

http://grumman581.googlepages.com/gators-gotta-eat-too