Removing oil galley plug

Any experience or thoughts would be appreciated.

Old motorcycle tricks are to degrease & dry the plug and wrench with
gasoline & air. Use a brand new black oxide (not cad or zinc plated)
hex key, and heat the block locally with a heat gun to ~200 degrees.
You might also sand blast the hex key to get even better grip. I don't
think an impact driver would help. You definitely want to avoid
dinging the hex - and that would be easiest with a manual wrench. Does
the plug stick out enough that you can also grab the outside diameter
with a visegrip to get still more torque?

You are right in your thoughts in that you have only one chance before
these things get really ugly. Good luck.

The plug only sticks out 1 thread. It's been painted over, and from
scraping the paint off, it looks like pipe dope in the thread. I haven't
tried valve grinding compound yet, maybe a combination of heat and compound
with a new oxide hex key with a ratchet will work.
Thanks
Jim

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Any experience or thoughts would be appreciated.

Old motorcycle tricks are to degrease & dry the plug and wrench with
gasoline & air. Use a brand new black oxide (not cad or zinc plated)
hex key, and heat the block locally with a heat gun to ~200 degrees.
You might also sand blast the hex key to get even better grip. I don't
think an impact driver would help. You definitely want to avoid
dinging the hex - and that would be easiest with a manual wrench. Does
the plug stick out enough that you can also grab the outside diameter
with a visegrip to get still more torque?

You are right in your thoughts in that you have only one chance before
these things get really ugly. Good luck.

"Jim Burns" writes:

The plug only sticks out 1 thread. It's been painted over, and from
scraping the paint off, it looks like pipe dope in the thread. I haven't
tried valve grinding compound yet, maybe a combination of heat and compound
with a new oxide hex key with a ratchet will work.

Motorcycle people have many of the those plugs to deal with & swear
by the hand-impact drivers; you preload them with a twist and hit
it with a hammer. The hammer keeps the key deeply seated.

Buy a 1/2" square drive key from Snap-on or such.

I concur with the preheating but also suggest getting some Kroil
Oil from Kano labs. It makes Liquid Wrench look like mouse milk.
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I've considered the hand impact driver as I actually own one, but I'm
tentative due to the aluminum case. Any positive/negative experiences?
Jim

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"Jim Burns" writes:

The plug only sticks out 1 thread. It's been painted over, and from
scraping the paint off, it looks like pipe dope in the thread. I haven't
tried valve grinding compound yet, maybe a combination of heat and
compound
with a new oxide hex key with a ratchet will work.

Motorcycle people have many of the those plugs to deal with & swear
by the hand-impact drivers; you preload them with a twist and hit
it with a hammer. The hammer keeps the key deeply seated.

Buy a 1/2" square drive key from Snap-on or such.

I concur with the preheating but also suggest getting some Kroil
Oil from Kano labs. It makes Liquid Wrench look like mouse milk.
--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

On Nov 6, 12:33 pm, "Jim Burns"
wrote:
I've considered the hand impact driver as I actually own one, but I'm
tentative due to the aluminum case. Any positive/negative experiences?

The impact driver isn't going to hurt the case but the lack of control
from a swinging hammer just might cause you to strip out the hex in a
situation where a wrench handle in knowledgeable hands, wouldn't.

What is the hex key size? 3/16 inch?

NRP

....or damage the ring gear which is just ahead of the plug ;( I didn't have
it with me last night, so I really don't know if I can get "straight on" the
plug to use the impact driver. Yep, it's 3/16".
Jim

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On Nov 6, 12:33 pm, "Jim Burns"
wrote:
I've considered the hand impact driver as I actually own one, but I'm
tentative due to the aluminum case. Any positive/negative experiences?

The impact driver isn't going to hurt the case but the lack of control
from a swinging hammer just might cause you to strip out the hex in a
situation where a wrench handle in knowledgeable hands, wouldn't.

What is the hex key size? 3/16 inch?

NRP

If the 3/16 hex key looks or feels like it is slipping, you might try a
carefully filed-down 5 millimeter hex key driven in. Sandblast the
filed surfaces for a better grip.

You should be able to get that plug out. Any overhauler has to, to
clean the oil galleries.

I'm out of ideas now..........!

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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I've considered the hand impact driver as I actually own one, but I'm
tentative due to the aluminum case. Any positive/negative experiences?
Jim


I've pounded on a lot of aluminium cases on motorcycles... What you DON'T
want to do is twist the handle very far (1/8 turn max). And you would want
to start out moderately and kinda build up with the hammer blows - don't
start with a 5 pound sledge, eh?

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