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Old November 6th 06, 10:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 6-Nov-2006, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

I would expect that the maximum speed was 4,000-6,000 mph.


You'd be wrong. Mary Shafer, formally NASA's SR-71 Flying Qualities Lead
Engineer at Dryden Flight Research Center, Edwards, CA, posted a reply to
"Yeff" back on February 23, 1999 on rec.aviation.military:
"Yeff" wrote:
The story I always heard was that if any plane ever beat
the Blackbirds speed record we'd just take a bird up and
move the throttles forward a bit more and take it back.
Sooth or myth? Has an SR-71 ever flown at max speed?
(hoping against hope that Mary imparts more wisdom...)


Yes. But it required permission of the Commander on a per-flight
basis. The SR-71's usual limit is Mach 3.2, but flight at Mach 3.3
was allowed, and flown, with prior permission. There's no evidence
that anyone has ever flown faster than Mach 3.3 (although it's
possible that someone may have briefly dashed above 3.3, not cruised,
but it's not documented).
The cruise speed on the SR-71 is limited by CIT, compressor inlet
temperature. The limit is 427 degC, per the Dash-1. Since the SR-71
is designed to fly Mach 3.2 (standard atmosphere), this temperature is
reached at Mach 3.3, offering a fairly standard margin of safety. If
operational conditions require going Mach 3.3 it's possible. Rather
than flying Mach number, we fly CIT, cruising just a bit below the
limit. This usually works out to Mach 3.23 but that's because the
real atmosphere isn't the same as the standard atmosphere. Everything
about the airplane is designed for Mach 3.2, including the inlet spike
operation, etc. I've always assumed that the extra 0.1 Mach was a
bonus, discovered in flight test, because the calculations were on the
conservative side.
If you'll check in Deja News, you'll find that Lednicer worked it out
that the absolute airframe maximum is around Mach 3.5, because you get
the bow shock impinging on the wing above that. Unfortunately, this
can't be tested because the CIT limit is reached first.
--
Mary Shafer NASA Dryden Flight Research Center, Edwards, CA
SR-71 Flying Qualities Lead Engineer Of course I don't speak for NASA



What a cool plane. I seen one in person at the Dayton Air Museum, it was
smaller than I thought. But they had the Valkyrie there to and that thing is
HUGE!

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DW


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Old November 7th 06, 09:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Darkwing wrote:
cool plane. I seen one in person at the Dayton Air Museum, it was
smaller than I thought. But they had the Valkyrie there to and that thing is
HUGE!

When the Smithsonian had there's in it's own temporary hangar it looked
small. Now that I've had to walk around that thing a gazillion times
it seems a lot larger.
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Old November 7th 06, 11:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Moore
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Ron Natalie wrote
When the Smithsonian had there's in it's own temporary hangar it
looked small.


RON!! I don't believe it! "their's".....:-)

Bob Moore
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Old November 8th 06, 12:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Moore wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote
When the Smithsonian had there's in it's own temporary hangar it
looked small.


RON!! I don't believe it! "their's".....:-)


I hate spelling flames, but I guess I can handle an apostrophe flame.

It's "theirs" and "its", as in "had theirs in its own temporary hangar".

.... Alan
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Old November 8th 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Moore
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Alan Gerber wrote

It's "theirs" and "its", as in "had theirs in its own temporary hangar".


Whoops!

Bob
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Old November 8th 06, 11:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Moore wrote:

Whoops!

Bob


whoops or oops? I can never get totally comfortable with this language


Ramapriya

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Old December 4th 06, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Alan Gerber wrote:
Bob Moore wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote
When the Smithsonian had there's in it's own temporary hangar it
looked small.


RON!! I don't believe it! "their's".....:-)


I hate spelling flames, but I guess I can handle an apostrophe flame.

It's "theirs" and "its", as in "had theirs in its own temporary hangar".


Had "its" in "its" hangar.

The Smithsonian is considered a singular entity.

I spent too many years with Strunk & White's "Elements of Style".

*sigh*
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Old December 5th 06, 12:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Blanche wrote:

The Smithsonian is considered a singular entity.


Unless you're British :-)
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Old December 5th 06, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Then you would know that periods always go inside quotation marks. :-)

Blanche wrote:


I spent too many years with Strunk & White's "Elements of Style".

*sigh*

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Old December 8th 06, 01:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Trivia: This is why periods always go inside the quotation marks (helps me
remember): In the old days of mechanical printing presses and manual
typesetting, the letter pieces looked similar to the strikers on old
typewriters; rectangular pieces of metal. A period piece [.] was only half
as wide as a double-quote [' '] and if it was at the end of a line, which is
common at the end of quotes or paragraphs, the half-width, full-heighth
period piece could lean just a little and eventually wiggle lose. As the
inking/printing mechanism moved over the wayward period, the piece could
snap off and monkey up the works.

To compensate for this, printing press operators and typesetters ignored the
editors made a command decision: They started tucking the [.] inside the
square [' '] piece in order to secure it and hold it still. According to
an old typesetter at the Oregon State printing press, that's why the period
goes inside the quote as such: [.][' '] (end of line)

-c

"RomeoMike" wrote in message
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Then you would know that periods always go inside quotation marks. :-)



I spent too many years with Strunk & White's "Elements of Style".

*sigh*



 




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