What essentials do you always have on board?

Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

People carrying guns? Most of us had to go through a training class
to get the permit, but with the exception of the *really* liberal
states most now have right to carry laws. The crime rate has gone
down in every one of those that have passed such laws.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:53:59 -0500, "LWG"
wrote:

Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

Yah, but I thought that was the norm for Miami International for
years. Looking at the neighborhoods you have to go through I almost
wanted an escorte.

OTOH that's how the neighbors get their new cars.


People carrying guns? Most of us had to go through a training class
to get the permit, but with the exception of the *really* liberal
states most now have right to carry laws. The crime rate has gone
down in every one of those that have passed such laws.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

What essentials do I really carry on flights?

In addition to those things required for the flight I take along a
first aid kit and clothes appropriate for the weather along the
route. This includes appropriate foot wear. A good pair of leather
gloves whether light weight work gloves or warm ones for cold weather
can save a lot of hide when walking out of the brush.

I also take a cell phone, but they are notoriously unreliable in many
areas. Even here in a relatively densely populated area you can find
many areas, and particularly out in the woods where they will not
connect. In addition I almost always carry an HT with both the
aviation band and 2-meter amateur band. Although it may have a much
longer reach than the cell phone the likely hood of some one hearing
it are slim.

A *small* hand held GPS suitable for navigating on foot would be a
good idea. I don't have one, but when traveling over wide areas of
woods and swamps that are sparsely populated that usually comes to
mind as "maybe I should get one of those things":-))

I typically keep a back pack in the car with essentials for a couple
of days and throw that in the plane before heading out on trips. The
backpack makes it much easier to carry that extra *stuff*. My
flashlight is a little solid state "Tac light" that can go from a dim
red to a very bright white and is good for several days even on
bright.

The back pack is pretty much my Oshkosh survival kit. A change of
clothes, couple pair of socks and underwear. A few small,light weight
tools. A couple days worth of meds should be in that first aid pack.
If you have a small camera, don't forget the flash can be seen for
miles at night.
"Skeeter spray/bug repellent" for summer. Sun block, cap, (stocking
cap for colder weather) remember the head is probably your largest
heat loss source so keep it covered and a long sleeve shirt.

I don't have one but one of those space age blankets would be a good
investment.

Few of us do, but we should all carry a survival pack with the
essentials to get us through at least one night. Include only the
essentials including a couple days worth of meds and fire starting
materials. Just don't start a forest fire. Remember too that even if
it's the hot part of summer it may get downright cold at night.

This time of year where it's down in the 20s at night and 30s or 40s
in the day we tend to get into the plane, complain about the chill
while taxiing to the runway and then forget about it once the inside
becomes nice and warm. We forget that we need warm clothes to even
walk out a mile or two, let alone an over night stay in the woods.

That's actually less of a problem in January and February as we are
dressed for the weather when we get into the plane:-)) (If it's not
snowed in or it's too cold to bother)
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"LWG" wrote in message
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Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my luggage
to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be using... If
it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get the rental
car...

Grumman-581 wrote:

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my
luggage to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be
using... If it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get
the rental car...

ok, I know this is getting quite a bit OT, but I am curious: who
issues carry permits (counties? states? I thought it was the county)
and can you still carry when leaving this jurisdiction?

--Sylvain

"Sylvain" wrote in message
t...
Grumman-581 wrote:

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my
luggage to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be
using... If it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get
the rental car...

ok, I know this is getting quite a bit OT, but I am curious: who
issues carry permits (counties? states? I thought it was the county)
and can you still carry when leaving this jurisdiction?

--Sylvain

Many are issued by the states and in many of those states CC laws there are
reciprocity clauses. I'm sure there are some places where the county sheriff
issues the permits and some others that it is issued by the city. Those
county and city are generally the places where you have to know somebody to
get one.

Most of the state laws are "Shall Issue" laws where the permit MUST be
issued unless there is a reason for it not to be issued and legitimate
reasons are spelled out in the law.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...
Many are issued by the states and in many of those states CC laws there
are
reciprocity clauses.

And for those leftist places that don't, there is always the SHALL NOT BE
INFRINGED clause of the 2nd Amendment...

The people of Florida would probably appreciate your travel there more
frequently. I think they have a few more of the predatory class left.

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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"LWG" wrote in message
. ..
Except, interestingly enough, in some places in Florida, which has a
right
to carry law. It seems the predatory class now lies in wait for those in
Florida -- you guessed it -- leaving airports. One of the few places in
Florida a predator can be fairly certain that a native or transient
Floridian will not be carrying a weapon on his or her person.

Interesting technique... Wouldn't work for me though... First thing I do
after putting my luggage in my rental car is transfer my .45 from my
luggage
to my fanny pack or whatever concealed type holster I might be using... If
it's convenient, I'll even do it at the airport before I get the rental
car...

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:11:36 -0800, Ron Wanttaja
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:52:45 -0500, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote:

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:43:19 -0800, Ron Wanttaja
wrote:


Sturdy shoes, worn on one's feet.

You have to little faith in your airplane you plan on walking back?

Or crunch through flaming wreckage. Your immediate post-crash chances of
survival are much better if your feet are protected, even for a short time.

I cringe, absolutely CRINGE, when I see people on airplanes wearing sandals.

Or light clothes in the winter.

As for foot wear I usually wear what I have on now. Steel toed leather
work boots that won't melt to your skin.



Ron Wanttaja
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 17:04:03 +0100, Wolfgang Schwanke
wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote in
news
I'm sorry that GA aircraft are so hopelessly primitive that they don't
normally have air conditioning.

They tend to have a heating. For cooling you can always open a window.

Or the door which will also do a very good job of cleaning the carpets
and simplifying cockpit clutter. Just keep your eyes tightly closed
for the first five seconds after pulling the door handle.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com