1979 Tiger for Sale

I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to
discredit me anyways? Running out of arguments?

If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or later -
this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - If you buy a used
C172 (newer model) like 1997 or newer with a runout engine, you spend about
$21000 for a new engine. So essentially for the same price in the end you
will have an airplane that was build 20 years later. Not to mention the
paint, the interior, the glass etc.

If you are really smart and want to save some money and get more speed,
consider spending rather $40000 on an STC for an engine conversion to the
Centurion 1.7 engine. Then you can burn jet fuel in a C172 at a rate of
4.6gal/h at 110 kts. Now that's efficient. And because it's a turbo
normalized diesel engine running on jet fuel you will have full power - even
up to 12000 feet.

http://www.centurion-engines.com/c17/c17_perform.htm

And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, I was an aircraft mechanic and
helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. I will buy a
used C172 after I get my IFR. I will buy one with a runout engine and
convert to the mentioned jet diesel. The conversion comes with everything
firewall forward. So for about $110000 I can go 110 kts and use only about
4.5 gal of jet fuel. You buy what you like, but I recommend to take a piece
of paper and calculate the "total cost" of flying. I will still fly when you
run out of credit cards at the FBO to gas up.


"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
"Satellite" wrote:
I don't get into an older than 20 year plane!

Somehow I doubt you've spent much time in light aircraft of any age.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Are you flying in the US or in Europe?


"Satellite" wrote in message
m...
I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to
discredit me anyways? Running out of arguments?

If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or
later -
this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - If you buy a
used
C172 (newer model) like 1997 or newer with a runout engine, you spend
about
$21000 for a new engine. So essentially for the same price in the end you
will have an airplane that was build 20 years later. Not to mention the
paint, the interior, the glass etc.

If you are really smart and want to save some money and get more speed,
consider spending rather $40000 on an STC for an engine conversion to the
Centurion 1.7 engine. Then you can burn jet fuel in a C172 at a rate of
4.6gal/h at 110 kts. Now that's efficient. And because it's a turbo
normalized diesel engine running on jet fuel you will have full power -
even
up to 12000 feet.

http://www.centurion-engines.com/c17/c17_perform.htm

And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, I was an aircraft mechanic and
helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. I will buy a
used C172 after I get my IFR. I will buy one with a runout engine and
convert to the mentioned jet diesel. The conversion comes with everything
firewall forward. So for about $110000 I can go 110 kts and use only about
4.5 gal of jet fuel. You buy what you like, but I recommend to take a
piece
of paper and calculate the "total cost" of flying. I will still fly when
you
run out of credit cards at the FBO to gas up.


"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
"Satellite" wrote:
I don't get into an older than 20 year plane!

Somehow I doubt you've spent much time in light aircraft of any age.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

I fly in Florida...


"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
.net...
Are you flying in the US or in Europe?


"Satellite" wrote in message
m...
I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to
discredit me anyways? Running out of arguments?

If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or
later -
this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - If you buy a
used
C172 (newer model) like 1997 or newer with a runout engine, you spend
about
$21000 for a new engine. So essentially for the same price in the end
you
will have an airplane that was build 20 years later. Not to mention the
paint, the interior, the glass etc.

If you are really smart and want to save some money and get more speed,
consider spending rather $40000 on an STC for an engine conversion to
the
Centurion 1.7 engine. Then you can burn jet fuel in a C172 at a rate of
4.6gal/h at 110 kts. Now that's efficient. And because it's a turbo
normalized diesel engine running on jet fuel you will have full power -
even
up to 12000 feet.

http://www.centurion-engines.com/c17/c17_perform.htm

And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, I was an aircraft mechanic and
helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. I will buy a
used C172 after I get my IFR. I will buy one with a runout engine and
convert to the mentioned jet diesel. The conversion comes with
everything
firewall forward. So for about $110000 I can go 110 kts and use only
about
4.5 gal of jet fuel. You buy what you like, but I recommend to take a
piece
of paper and calculate the "total cost" of flying. I will still fly when
you
run out of credit cards at the FBO to gas up.


"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
"Satellite" wrote:
I don't get into an older than 20 year plane!

Somehow I doubt you've spent much time in light aircraft of any age.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

I fly in Florida...

Well, no wonder! :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Satellite" wrote:
I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you
trying to
discredit me anyways?

You did that yourself when you failed to notice that Flynn's Tiger has
a fairly fresh engine whereas the Cessnas you were touting were all
near or past TBO. You also said you wouldn't fly in anything older
than 20 years, a silly prejudice.

Running out of arguments?

You also disregarded the fact that the Tiger has an autopilot worth
several thousand dollars.

If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or
later -
this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 -

They've already been upgraded and will be ok for as long as the
Cessnas' will.

And don't talk to me like I am an idiot,

Don't pop up in this newsgroup calling another poster's airplane a
joke without knowing what you're talking about - someone might think
you're an idiot.

I was an aircraft mechanic and
helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research.

Then how come you didn't know the going price for a nice '79 Tiger?

If you want to by a runout Skyhawk and turn it into a diesel science
project, fine, please tell us all about it. But Flynn will probably
get what he's asking for the Tiger, and whoever buys it will pass you
on the airway.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
"Satellite" wrote:
I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you
trying to
discredit me anyways?

You did that yourself when you failed to notice that Flynn's Tiger has
a fairly fresh engine whereas the Cessnas you were touting were all
near or past TBO. You also said you wouldn't fly in anything older
than 20 years, a silly prejudice.

I drive a newer car and want a newer plane, easy. Has nothing to do with
prejudice, good taste maybe. I don't fly a plane with such a hiddious
looking interiour, that's for sure... Reminds me to much of a junker I drove
when I was jung...

Running out of arguments?

You also disregarded the fact that the Tiger has an autopilot worth
several thousand dollars.

Almost all newer Cessnas have autopilots too.

If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or
later -
this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 -

They've already been upgraded and will be ok for as long as the
Cessnas' will.

Yes, upgraded to a nonmatching set from different manufacturers. If you like
to fly like that, ok. I call that JUNK!!!

And don't talk to me like I am an idiot,

Don't pop up in this newsgroup calling another poster's airplane a
joke without knowing what you're talking about - someone might think
you're an idiot.

I was an aircraft mechanic and
helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research.

Then how come you didn't know the going price for a nice '79 Tiger?

Show me one who pays that price! Good luck, he's gonna need it...

If you want to by a runout Skyhawk and turn it into a diesel science
project, fine, please tell us all about it. But Flynn will probably
get what he's asking for the Tiger, and whoever buys it will pass you
on the airway.

We talk about a runout, outdated Tiger. The Cessnas only need an engine
overhaul. And that's not a science project. It's approved in the USA and the
engine will also be used in the new Diamond aircrafts!

It looks to me like you have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't
you get it - It's still a 20 year old Tiger. But I think you are not a
stupid as you appear, since you fly a C172. But you do pay a lot more for RG
without getting much in return. Go figure...

And if he CAN sell it for that price. Congrats, there must be a lot more
idiots flying than I thought - it scares me... Kennedy jr. and John Denver
come to mind. One with no gas and no proper license and no medical in an
homebuild and the other flying into IFR without proper rating and after he
was warned not to go in a new plane he was not yet comfortable with (or he
would used the auto pilot)...
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM