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I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to
discredit me anyways? Running out of arguments? If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or later - this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - If you buy a used C172 (newer model) like 1997 or newer with a runout engine, you spend about $21000 for a new engine. So essentially for the same price in the end you will have an airplane that was build 20 years later. Not to mention the paint, the interior, the glass etc. If you are really smart and want to save some money and get more speed, consider spending rather $40000 on an STC for an engine conversion to the Centurion 1.7 engine. Then you can burn jet fuel in a C172 at a rate of 4.6gal/h at 110 kts. Now that's efficient. And because it's a turbo normalized diesel engine running on jet fuel you will have full power - even up to 12000 feet. http://www.centurion-engines.com/c17/c17_perform.htm And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, I was an aircraft mechanic and helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. I will buy a used C172 after I get my IFR. I will buy one with a runout engine and convert to the mentioned jet diesel. The conversion comes with everything firewall forward. So for about $110000 I can go 110 kts and use only about 4.5 gal of jet fuel. You buy what you like, but I recommend to take a piece of paper and calculate the "total cost" of flying. I will still fly when you run out of credit cards at the FBO to gas up. "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "Satellite" wrote: I don't get into an older than 20 year plane! Somehow I doubt you've spent much time in light aircraft of any age. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Are you flying in the US or in Europe?
"Satellite" wrote in message m... I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to discredit me anyways? Running out of arguments? If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or later - this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - If you buy a used C172 (newer model) like 1997 or newer with a runout engine, you spend about $21000 for a new engine. So essentially for the same price in the end you will have an airplane that was build 20 years later. Not to mention the paint, the interior, the glass etc. If you are really smart and want to save some money and get more speed, consider spending rather $40000 on an STC for an engine conversion to the Centurion 1.7 engine. Then you can burn jet fuel in a C172 at a rate of 4.6gal/h at 110 kts. Now that's efficient. And because it's a turbo normalized diesel engine running on jet fuel you will have full power - even up to 12000 feet. http://www.centurion-engines.com/c17/c17_perform.htm And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, I was an aircraft mechanic and helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. I will buy a used C172 after I get my IFR. I will buy one with a runout engine and convert to the mentioned jet diesel. The conversion comes with everything firewall forward. So for about $110000 I can go 110 kts and use only about 4.5 gal of jet fuel. You buy what you like, but I recommend to take a piece of paper and calculate the "total cost" of flying. I will still fly when you run out of credit cards at the FBO to gas up. "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "Satellite" wrote: I don't get into an older than 20 year plane! Somehow I doubt you've spent much time in light aircraft of any age. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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I fly in Florida...
"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message .net... Are you flying in the US or in Europe? "Satellite" wrote in message m... I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to discredit me anyways? Running out of arguments? If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or later - this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - If you buy a used C172 (newer model) like 1997 or newer with a runout engine, you spend about $21000 for a new engine. So essentially for the same price in the end you will have an airplane that was build 20 years later. Not to mention the paint, the interior, the glass etc. If you are really smart and want to save some money and get more speed, consider spending rather $40000 on an STC for an engine conversion to the Centurion 1.7 engine. Then you can burn jet fuel in a C172 at a rate of 4.6gal/h at 110 kts. Now that's efficient. And because it's a turbo normalized diesel engine running on jet fuel you will have full power - even up to 12000 feet. http://www.centurion-engines.com/c17/c17_perform.htm And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, I was an aircraft mechanic and helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. I will buy a used C172 after I get my IFR. I will buy one with a runout engine and convert to the mentioned jet diesel. The conversion comes with everything firewall forward. So for about $110000 I can go 110 kts and use only about 4.5 gal of jet fuel. You buy what you like, but I recommend to take a piece of paper and calculate the "total cost" of flying. I will still fly when you run out of credit cards at the FBO to gas up. "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "Satellite" wrote: I don't get into an older than 20 year plane! Somehow I doubt you've spent much time in light aircraft of any age. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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I fly in Florida...
Well, no wonder! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Satellite" wrote:
I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to discredit me anyways? You did that yourself when you failed to notice that Flynn's Tiger has a fairly fresh engine whereas the Cessnas you were touting were all near or past TBO. You also said you wouldn't fly in anything older than 20 years, a silly prejudice. Running out of arguments? You also disregarded the fact that the Tiger has an autopilot worth several thousand dollars. If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or later - this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - They've already been upgraded and will be ok for as long as the Cessnas' will. And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, Don't pop up in this newsgroup calling another poster's airplane a joke without knowing what you're talking about - someone might think you're an idiot. I was an aircraft mechanic and helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. Then how come you didn't know the going price for a nice '79 Tiger? If you want to by a runout Skyhawk and turn it into a diesel science project, fine, please tell us all about it. But Flynn will probably get what he's asking for the Tiger, and whoever buys it will pass you on the airway. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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![]() "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "Satellite" wrote: I don't think that's the issue here. (PPL - 110h) Why are you trying to discredit me anyways? You did that yourself when you failed to notice that Flynn's Tiger has a fairly fresh engine whereas the Cessnas you were touting were all near or past TBO. You also said you wouldn't fly in anything older than 20 years, a silly prejudice. I drive a newer car and want a newer plane, easy. Has nothing to do with prejudice, good taste maybe. I don't fly a plane with such a hiddious looking interiour, that's for sure... Reminds me to much of a junker I drove when I was jung... Running out of arguments? You also disregarded the fact that the Tiger has an autopilot worth several thousand dollars. Almost all newer Cessnas have autopilots too. If you buy the Tiger you will have to update the avionics sooner or later - this will cost you incl. install about $20000 to $25000 - They've already been upgraded and will be ok for as long as the Cessnas' will. Yes, upgraded to a nonmatching set from different manufacturers. If you like to fly like that, ok. I call that JUNK!!! And don't talk to me like I am an idiot, Don't pop up in this newsgroup calling another poster's airplane a joke without knowing what you're talking about - someone might think you're an idiot. I was an aircraft mechanic and helicopter mechanic in the German Army - I did my research. Then how come you didn't know the going price for a nice '79 Tiger? Show me one who pays that price! Good luck, he's gonna need it... If you want to by a runout Skyhawk and turn it into a diesel science project, fine, please tell us all about it. But Flynn will probably get what he's asking for the Tiger, and whoever buys it will pass you on the airway. We talk about a runout, outdated Tiger. The Cessnas only need an engine overhaul. And that's not a science project. It's approved in the USA and the engine will also be used in the new Diamond aircrafts! It looks to me like you have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you get it - It's still a 20 year old Tiger. But I think you are not a stupid as you appear, since you fly a C172. But you do pay a lot more for RG without getting much in return. Go figure... And if he CAN sell it for that price. Congrats, there must be a lot more idiots flying than I thought - it scares me... Kennedy jr. and John Denver come to mind. One with no gas and no proper license and no medical in an homebuild and the other flying into IFR without proper rating and after he was warned not to go in a new plane he was not yet comfortable with (or he would used the auto pilot)... -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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