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Old November 10th 06, 12:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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This isn't a racial issue. Charter pilots are from every demographic and if the statement is true then it's true.

It has nothing to do with race. Race (in my example) is just a stand-in
for =any= group which is percieved as being less worthy. In that, race
is no different than occupation.

And if it's true for a racial group, why is it not ok to say so?

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Old November 10th 06, 01:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
This isn't a racial issue. Charter pilots are from every demographic
and if the statement is true then it's true.



It has nothing to do with race. Race (in my example) is just a stand-in
for =any= group which is percieved as being less worthy.


In this case it's actually true.





And if it's true for a racial group, why is it not ok to say so?


It would be OK to say, if it were true.

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Old November 10th 06, 04:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It has nothing to do with race. Race (in my example) is just a stand-in for =any= group which is percieved as being less worthy.
In this case it's actually true.


And if it's true for a racial group, why is it not ok to say so?

It would be OK to say, if it were true.


There are some neighborhoods where it is true. There are people in
whose experience it is true.

It is certainly legal to say so. It is not very civilized to do so in a
social situation however.

Jose
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Old November 10th 06, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote in
t:

This isn't a racial issue. Charter pilots are from every demographic
and if the statement is true then it's true.


It has nothing to do with race. Race (in my example) is just a stand-in
for =any= group which is percieved as being less worthy. In that, race
is no different than occupation.

And if it's true for a racial group, why is it not ok to say so?

Jose


How is being cheap considered to be less worthy?

Some people think being thrifty and cost conscious is a good thing.

(Of course, I'm also Jewish.)
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Old November 10th 06, 05:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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How is being cheap considered to be less worthy?

Ask Jay. He finds charter pilots to be less worthy (of admiration for
their behavior).

Jose
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Old November 10th 06, 08:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote in news:r2U4h.2002$6t.1206
@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:

How is being cheap considered to be less worthy?


Ask Jay. He finds charter pilots to be less worthy (of admiration for
their behavior).


The behavior Jay is describing is not being cheap: It is the failure to
reciprocate in response to a favor someone is doing for them.
Reciprocation for favors received is generally considered good form across
cultures and throughout time even when there is no formal requirement to
do so.

The fact is, Jay did something nice by filling up the car without being
asked or required. That act sets the stage: Whatever he says/does after
that has to be viewed based on that precedent. If he then inadvertently
makes a statement that others find objectionable, the proper response
would be to politely point that out.

If Jay had walked in to the FBO and said "I ain't filling up the tank
because I hate cheap charter pilots", that would have been a different
scenario.

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Old November 11th 06, 02:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"A. Sinan Unur" wrote in message
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If Jay had walked in to the FBO and said "I ain't filling up the tank
because I hate cheap charter pilots", that would have been a different
scenario.



Jay filled the courtesy car because he's too cheap to fill his airplane.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG


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Old November 11th 06, 01:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay filled the courtesy car because he's too cheap to fill his airplane.

Which brings up an interesting point. Would the average FBO rather
have his courtesy car's tank filled, or would he rather pump 8 gallons
of Avgas into a plane that doesn't need gas?

I had 76 gallons on board when I landed, Karl. Making the line guy
bring the truck over didn't make much sense.
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Old November 11th 06, 12:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message
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How is being cheap considered to be less worthy?


Ask Jay. He finds charter pilots to be less worthy (of admiration for
their behavior).



Gee, especially when he lends them a vehicle and pays for their gas.

Why wouldn't he admire THAT?!

Yeesh.
-c


 




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