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They'll be back. That's what happened to me. It took me over 10 years,
but I never forgot.... I've got to agree with the people who say to train in newer, better equipment. I learned to fly in a 2-33, but quite frankly couldn't care less if I ever flew one again. Put me in an ASK-21, or better yet a Discus (or Duo!), and I'm right where I want to be. These are great aircraft, and there is absolutely no reason someone couldn't start out in the K-21 and transition directly to a Discus. You can bet your last dollar that the younger kids starting out think exactly the same way. They'll fly anything, but if they have the chance to fly something cool, it means much more. When my daughter is ready to learn to fly, and that day is coming soon, her first solo will definitely be in a K-21. No question about it. Mark Lenox, CFIG Chilhowee Gliderport On the other hand, I have seen a LOT of young people who were enthralled with soaring but who eventually left with a tear in their eyes when the cost became overwhelming. Bill Daniels |
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My favorite club glider is our K-8. I love it when I'm in a tight thermal
and I'm climbing away from a DG-1000! Mike Schumann "Mark Lenox" wrote in message . .. They'll be back. That's what happened to me. It took me over 10 years, but I never forgot.... I've got to agree with the people who say to train in newer, better equipment. I learned to fly in a 2-33, but quite frankly couldn't care less if I ever flew one again. Put me in an ASK-21, or better yet a Discus (or Duo!), and I'm right where I want to be. These are great aircraft, and there is absolutely no reason someone couldn't start out in the K-21 and transition directly to a Discus. You can bet your last dollar that the younger kids starting out think exactly the same way. They'll fly anything, but if they have the chance to fly something cool, it means much more. When my daughter is ready to learn to fly, and that day is coming soon, her first solo will definitely be in a K-21. No question about it. Mark Lenox, CFIG Chilhowee Gliderport On the other hand, I have seen a LOT of young people who were enthralled with soaring but who eventually left with a tear in their eyes when the cost became overwhelming. Bill Daniels |
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Mike Schumann wrote:
My favorite club glider is our K-8. I love it when I'm in a tight thermal and I'm climbing away from a DG-1000! And I like being in the DG-1000 because I can leave the thermal and fly both faster and farther than you before needing to thermal again. :-) That's really just a round about way of making a related point. There's a substantial number of glider pilots who get stuck in the gap between taking friends for sled rides and flying cross-country in a fun and safe manner. Getting people across that gap often helps them stick with soaring much longer. Jeremy |
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Just because you are in an old glider doesn't mean that you can't fly cross
country. One of our club member, Jim Hard, just finished his goal of flying 40K KM in his 1-26 this summer. The fun of soaring is the challenge. The type of equipment you fly just changes the challenge. It doesn't necessarily increase or reduce it. Mike Schumann "Jeremy Zawodny" wrote in message ... Mike Schumann wrote: My favorite club glider is our K-8. I love it when I'm in a tight thermal and I'm climbing away from a DG-1000! And I like being in the DG-1000 because I can leave the thermal and fly both faster and farther than you before needing to thermal again. :-) That's really just a round about way of making a related point. There's a substantial number of glider pilots who get stuck in the gap between taking friends for sled rides and flying cross-country in a fun and safe manner. Getting people across that gap often helps them stick with soaring much longer. Jeremy |
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Mike Schumann wrote:
Just because you are in an old glider doesn't mean that you can't fly cross country. In the climate and geography where I fly part of the year, it really does--at least if you don't want to end up in a field more than 50% of the time. In the other locations I fly, you could go XC in a coffin on many days. There, I completely agree with you. Jeremy |
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![]() Mike Schumann wrote: Just because you are in an old glider doesn't mean that you can't fly cross country. One of our club member, Jim Hard, just finished his goal of flying 40K KM in his 1-26 this summer. The fun of soaring is the challenge. The type of equipment you fly just changes the challenge. It doesn't necessarily increase or reduce it. Mike Schumann Amen Mike!! |
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Hi Mike,
At some point in your soaring career, I hope you do some cross-country in the DG-1000 with Dick or Fred. It is very fun!!! There is a lot to be said for generous owners of hot 2-seaters that let the rest of us fly cross-country fly with them. They do a lot to encourage soaring and cross-country in my opinion. Not that there is anything wrong with doing cross-country in the Ka-8. It seems like a very nice glider. But why don't you use the club's Junior? It it extremely nice to fly and has much better performance than the Ka-8. Good Soaring, Paul Remde "Mike Schumann" wrote in message nk.net... My favorite club glider is our K-8. I love it when I'm in a tight thermal and I'm climbing away from a DG-1000! Mike Schumann "Mark Lenox" wrote in message . .. They'll be back. That's what happened to me. It took me over 10 years, but I never forgot.... I've got to agree with the people who say to train in newer, better equipment. I learned to fly in a 2-33, but quite frankly couldn't care less if I ever flew one again. Put me in an ASK-21, or better yet a Discus (or Duo!), and I'm right where I want to be. These are great aircraft, and there is absolutely no reason someone couldn't start out in the K-21 and transition directly to a Discus. You can bet your last dollar that the younger kids starting out think exactly the same way. They'll fly anything, but if they have the chance to fly something cool, it means much more. When my daughter is ready to learn to fly, and that day is coming soon, her first solo will definitely be in a K-21. No question about it. Mark Lenox, CFIG Chilhowee Gliderport On the other hand, I have seen a LOT of young people who were enthralled with soaring but who eventually left with a tear in their eyes when the cost became overwhelming. Bill Daniels |
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Unfortunately, I don't have enough flight experience yet to qualify to fly
the Junior under the MSC rules. Mike Schumann "Paul Remde" wrote in message news:sR55h.231090$FQ1.110494@attbi_s71... Hi Mike, At some point in your soaring career, I hope you do some cross-country in the DG-1000 with Dick or Fred. It is very fun!!! There is a lot to be said for generous owners of hot 2-seaters that let the rest of us fly cross-country fly with them. They do a lot to encourage soaring and cross-country in my opinion. Not that there is anything wrong with doing cross-country in the Ka-8. It seems like a very nice glider. But why don't you use the club's Junior? It it extremely nice to fly and has much better performance than the Ka-8. Good Soaring, Paul Remde "Mike Schumann" wrote in message nk.net... My favorite club glider is our K-8. I love it when I'm in a tight thermal and I'm climbing away from a DG-1000! Mike Schumann "Mark Lenox" wrote in message . .. They'll be back. That's what happened to me. It took me over 10 years, but I never forgot.... I've got to agree with the people who say to train in newer, better equipment. I learned to fly in a 2-33, but quite frankly couldn't care less if I ever flew one again. Put me in an ASK-21, or better yet a Discus (or Duo!), and I'm right where I want to be. These are great aircraft, and there is absolutely no reason someone couldn't start out in the K-21 and transition directly to a Discus. You can bet your last dollar that the younger kids starting out think exactly the same way. They'll fly anything, but if they have the chance to fly something cool, it means much more. When my daughter is ready to learn to fly, and that day is coming soon, her first solo will definitely be in a K-21. No question about it. Mark Lenox, CFIG Chilhowee Gliderport On the other hand, I have seen a LOT of young people who were enthralled with soaring but who eventually left with a tear in their eyes when the cost became overwhelming. Bill Daniels |
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Ah, hurdles. One of the banes of the soaring experience. Philadelphia
Glider Council eliminated the hurdles a few years back by changing to an all glass fleet with 3*G-103's for training, 2*G102's for early single seater and XC, and an ASW-19 for a bit better XC experience. By eliminating the hurdles, they wound up with 6 gliders doing the same amount of work of 9 diverse gliders in the previous fleet. Secondly, the examiners said they were turning out better pilots. PGC's Bob Lacovara gives a convincing talk on delivering on the promise of soaring. We promise the sleek, sexy glass slippers, but stick students in the beat 2-33's. Better to deliver on the promise. Don't be afraid to dream a bit. Frank Whiteley Mike Schumann wrote: Unfortunately, I don't have enough flight experience yet to qualify to fly the Junior under the MSC rules. Mike Schumann "Paul Remde" wrote in message news:sR55h.231090$FQ1.110494@attbi_s71... Hi Mike, At some point in your soaring career, I hope you do some cross-country in the DG-1000 with Dick or Fred. It is very fun!!! There is a lot to be said for generous owners of hot 2-seaters that let the rest of us fly cross-country fly with them. They do a lot to encourage soaring and cross-country in my opinion. Not that there is anything wrong with doing cross-country in the Ka-8. It seems like a very nice glider. But why don't you use the club's Junior? It it extremely nice to fly and has much better performance than the Ka-8. Good Soaring, Paul Remde "Mike Schumann" wrote in message nk.net... My favorite club glider is our K-8. I love it when I'm in a tight thermal and I'm climbing away from a DG-1000! Mike Schumann "Mark Lenox" wrote in message . .. They'll be back. That's what happened to me. It took me over 10 years, but I never forgot.... I've got to agree with the people who say to train in newer, better equipment. I learned to fly in a 2-33, but quite frankly couldn't care less if I ever flew one again. Put me in an ASK-21, or better yet a Discus (or Duo!), and I'm right where I want to be. These are great aircraft, and there is absolutely no reason someone couldn't start out in the K-21 and transition directly to a Discus. You can bet your last dollar that the younger kids starting out think exactly the same way. They'll fly anything, but if they have the chance to fly something cool, it means much more. When my daughter is ready to learn to fly, and that day is coming soon, her first solo will definitely be in a K-21. No question about it. Mark Lenox, CFIG Chilhowee Gliderport On the other hand, I have seen a LOT of young people who were enthralled with soaring but who eventually left with a tear in their eyes when the cost became overwhelming. Bill Daniels |
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Another one that drank the coolaid.
"Frank Whiteley" wrote in message ups.com... Ah, hurdles. One of the banes of the soaring experience. Philadelphia Glider Council eliminated the hurdles a few years back by changing to an all glass fleet with 3*G-103's for training, 2*G102's for early single seater and XC, and an ASW-19 for a bit better XC experience. By eliminating the hurdles, they wound up with 6 gliders doing the same amount of work of 9 diverse gliders in the previous fleet. Secondly, the examiners said they were turning out better pilots. PGC's Bob Lacovara gives a convincing talk on delivering on the promise of soaring. We promise the sleek, sexy glass slippers, but stick students in the beat 2-33's. Better to deliver on the promise. Don't be afraid to dream a bit. Frank Whiteley Mike Schumann wrote: Unfortunately, I don't have enough flight experience yet to qualify to fly the Junior under the MSC rules. Mike Schumann "Paul Remde" wrote in message news:sR55h.231090$FQ1.110494@attbi_s71... Hi Mike, At some point in your soaring career, I hope you do some cross-country in the DG-1000 with Dick or Fred. It is very fun!!! There is a lot to be said for generous owners of hot 2-seaters that let the rest of us fly cross-country fly with them. They do a lot to encourage soaring and cross-country in my opinion. Not that there is anything wrong with doing cross-country in the Ka-8. It seems like a very nice glider. But why don't you use the club's Junior? It it extremely nice to fly and has much better performance than the Ka-8. Good Soaring, Paul Remde "Mike Schumann" wrote in message nk.net... My favorite club glider is our K-8. I love it when I'm in a tight thermal and I'm climbing away from a DG-1000! Mike Schumann "Mark Lenox" wrote in message . .. They'll be back. That's what happened to me. It took me over 10 years, but I never forgot.... I've got to agree with the people who say to train in newer, better equipment. I learned to fly in a 2-33, but quite frankly couldn't care less if I ever flew one again. Put me in an ASK-21, or better yet a Discus (or Duo!), and I'm right where I want to be. These are great aircraft, and there is absolutely no reason someone couldn't start out in the K-21 and transition directly to a Discus. You can bet your last dollar that the younger kids starting out think exactly the same way. They'll fly anything, but if they have the chance to fly something cool, it means much more. When my daughter is ready to learn to fly, and that day is coming soon, her first solo will definitely be in a K-21. No question about it. Mark Lenox, CFIG Chilhowee Gliderport On the other hand, I have seen a LOT of young people who were enthralled with soaring but who eventually left with a tear in their eyes when the cost became overwhelming. Bill Daniels |
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