Thrown out of an FBO...

"mike regish" wrote in
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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

What I am saying is that people should be able to express their
opinions freely without fearing negative reactions or reprimand from
others.

Watched a show on the KKK the other day. Don't see how you can listen to
any of those guys' opinions without getting ****ed. But, hey...that's
just me.

Yeah, but they take the "Jews are cheap *******s" to the next level by
adding, "so we should burn crosses on their lawn and kill them all."

And that's where their opinion goes from being mostly harmless, silly
stereotype to offensive and perhaps even intolerable.

But tolerance is not just about tolerating the differences that we all
have. It's about tolerating the people who don't - at least long enough to
have a chance to educate them. Sure, Jay's joke was insensitive and
tasteless. But it wasn't all that harmful by itself.

The reaction of the FBO Owner / Charter Pilot was immature and useless. He
would have been much better to smile and say, "I bet you didn't know I am
also a Charter Pilot." Then he might have changed Jay's opinion, even if
just a bit.

Tolerance goes both ways. If every time people get offended they
immediately shut the door and stomp their feet, no one will ever change.

Good points. And I do think the FBO owner's reaction was a bit much...but I
wasn't there either. We only have Jay's version. Being from Mass. and having
voted for John Kerry in '04, I could instantly tell that I don't agree with
his politics-and that's putting it mildly. But as others have noticed, Mr.
Honeck has several "opinions" that encompass large groups with what appears
to be no exceptions for individuals within those groups.

That's bigotry. And Mr. Honeck has repeatedly demonstrated himself to be a
bigot. And every now and then, he gets caught by it because he will
verbalize one of these sweeping generalizations to somebody who happens to
be one of those individuals.

mike

"Judah" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in
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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

What I am saying is that people should be able to express their
opinions freely without fearing negative reactions or reprimand from
others.

Watched a show on the KKK the other day. Don't see how you can listen to
any of those guys' opinions without getting ****ed. But, hey...that's
just me.

Yeah, but they take the "Jews are cheap *******s" to the next level by
adding, "so we should burn crosses on their lawn and kill them all."

And that's where their opinion goes from being mostly harmless, silly
stereotype to offensive and perhaps even intolerable.

But tolerance is not just about tolerating the differences that we all
have. It's about tolerating the people who don't - at least long enough to
have a chance to educate them. Sure, Jay's joke was insensitive and
tasteless. But it wasn't all that harmful by itself.

The reaction of the FBO Owner / Charter Pilot was immature and useless. He
would have been much better to smile and say, "I bet you didn't know I am
also a Charter Pilot." Then he might have changed Jay's opinion, even if
just a bit.

Tolerance goes both ways. If every time people get offended they
immediately shut the door and stomp their feet, no one will ever change.

That's bigotry. And Mr. Honeck has repeatedly demonstrated himself to be a
bigot. And every now and then, he gets caught by it because he will
verbalize one of these sweeping generalizations to somebody who happens to
be one of those individuals.

mike

Wow, first I "hate FBOs", and now I'm a "bigot"? Soon, you'll be
calling me a "social climber"...

;-)

Just once it would be good of you to contribute something positive to
this group, Mike. Try it sometime -- it'll make you feel better.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Yes dear.

mike

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
That's bigotry. And Mr. Honeck has repeatedly demonstrated himself to be
a
bigot. And every now and then, he gets caught by it because he will
verbalize one of these sweeping generalizations to somebody who happens
to
be one of those individuals.

mike

Wow, first I "hate FBOs", and now I'm a "bigot"? Soon, you'll be
calling me a "social climber"...

;-)

Just once it would be good of you to contribute something positive to
this group, Mike. Try it sometime -- it'll make you feel better.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ah...see? Now you've enlightened me again. I though you just thought charter
pilots were cheap *******s.

mike

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
That's bigotry. And Mr. Honeck has repeatedly demonstrated himself to be
a
bigot. And every now and then, he gets caught by it because he will
verbalize one of these sweeping generalizations to somebody who happens
to
be one of those individuals.

mike

Wow, first I "hate FBOs", and now I'm a "bigot"? Soon, you'll be
calling me a "social climber"...

;-)

Just once it would be good of you to contribute something positive to
this group, Mike. Try it sometime -- it'll make you feel better.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

That's bigotry. And Mr. Honeck has repeatedly demonstrated himself to be a
bigot. And every now and then, he gets caught by it because he will
verbalize one of these sweeping generalizations to somebody who happens to
be one of those individuals.

mike

Wow, first I "hate FBOs", and now I'm a "bigot"? Soon, you'll be
calling me a "social climber"...

Don't let his comments bother you Jay. His "bigotry" comment is
typical of liberals who are the worst at fomenting racism and poverty
in the USA. Now before you liberals get your panties in a wad, that
is fact, not a generalization.

Ron Lee

ROTFLMAO

Yep. I'm one of those damn liberals. I prefer "progressive", but liberal
will do.

mike

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

That's bigotry. And Mr. Honeck has repeatedly demonstrated himself to be
a
bigot. And every now and then, he gets caught by it because he will
verbalize one of these sweeping generalizations to somebody who happens
to
be one of those individuals.

mike

Wow, first I "hate FBOs", and now I'm a "bigot"? Soon, you'll be
calling me a "social climber"...

Don't let his comments bother you Jay. His "bigotry" comment is
typical of liberals who are the worst at fomenting racism and poverty
in the USA. Now before you liberals get your panties in a wad, that
is fact, not a generalization.

Ron Lee

(Ron Lee) wrote in
:

Don't let his comments bother you Jay. His "bigotry" comment is
typical of liberals who are the worst at fomenting racism and poverty
in the USA. Now before you liberals get your panties in a wad, that
is fact, not a generalization.

Sure it is. But some liberals are not fanatics, just as some conservatives
are not fanatics.

But I think there is a little bit of hypocrisy on both sides...

Ron Lee wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote:


Don't let his comments bother you Jay. His "bigotry" comment is
typical of liberals who are the worst at fomenting racism and poverty
in the USA. Now before you liberals get your panties in a wad, that
is fact, not a generalization.

Ron Lee

If bigotry is typical of liberals, then that challenges the very
definition of the word liberal. So, who are the real liberals? You?

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote:


Ron Lee wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote:


Don't let his comments bother you Jay. His "bigotry" comment is
typical of liberals who are the worst at fomenting racism and poverty
in the USA. Now before you liberals get your panties in a wad, that
is fact, not a generalization.

Ron Lee

If bigotry is typical of liberals, then that challenges the very
definition of the word liberal. So, who are the real liberals? You?

No, it just means that many liberals are hypocrites in addition to
doing things (programs like welfare) that ruin lives and result in the
deaths of innocent Americans.

But liberals can't see what their failures have done.

Ron Lee