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Old November 10th 06, 06:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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The whole Muslim terrorist world has declared war on the
USA.



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Old November 10th 06, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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"Jim Macklin" writes:

The whole Muslim terrorist world has declared war on the
USA.


There are only a handful of Muslim terrorists in the world, and they
don't represent a sovereign state, so they cannot formally declare
war.

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Old November 10th 06, 09:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
"Jim Macklin" writes:


The whole Muslim terrorist world has declared war on the
USA.



There are only a handful of Muslim terrorists in the world, and they
don't represent a sovereign state, so they cannot formally declare
war.





Your ability to completely and utterly miss a point is astounding.
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Old November 10th 06, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Recently, Newps posted:

Mxsmanic wrote:
"Jim Macklin" writes:


The whole Muslim terrorist world has declared war on the
USA.



There are only a handful of Muslim terrorists in the world, and they
don't represent a sovereign state, so they cannot formally declare
war.


Your ability to completely and utterly miss a point is astounding.

On this, I think Mxsmanic's point is right on target. "The whole Muslim
terrorist world..." can most likely be counted in the thousands, and they
don't represent (nor are they represented by) a sovereign state. Of
course, now there are a lot of "normal Muslims" that are rather ticked off
at the inept manner in which we are dealing with those few terrorists, and
that doesn't help matters any.

Neil


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Old November 11th 06, 12:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Recent Political Change May Positively Affect GA

There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims on the planet. If only 1/10
of 1% are violent terrorists, it is still 1 million, 500
thousand. Surveys have put the number as high as 10-25% of
the Muslims supporting the terrorists.



"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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| Recently, Newps posted:
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| Mxsmanic wrote:
| "Jim Macklin"
writes:
|
|
| The whole Muslim terrorist world has declared war on
the
| USA.
|
|
| There are only a handful of Muslim terrorists in the
world, and they
| don't represent a sovereign state, so they cannot
formally declare
| war.
|
| Your ability to completely and utterly miss a point is
astounding.
|
| On this, I think Mxsmanic's point is right on target. "The
whole Muslim
| terrorist world..." can most likely be counted in the
thousands, and they
| don't represent (nor are they represented by) a sovereign
state. Of
| course, now there are a lot of "normal Muslims" that are
rather ticked off
| at the inept manner in which we are dealing with those few
terrorists, and
| that doesn't help matters any.
|
| Neil
|
|


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Old November 11th 06, 06:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Recent Political Change May Positively Affect GA

"Jim Macklin" writes:

There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims on the planet. If only 1/10
of 1% are violent terrorists, it is still 1 million, 500
thousand.


The figure is probably closer to one in a million. There are only a
few thousand Muslim terrorists in the world.

Surveys have put the number as high as 10-25% of
the Muslims supporting the terrorists.


Support comes in many forms; simply being sympathetic to the cause of
a terrorist is not the same as being a terrorist.

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Old November 11th 06, 12:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Default Recent Political Change May Positively Affect GA

Recently, Jim Macklin posted:

There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims on the planet. If only 1/10
of 1% are violent terrorists, it is still 1 million, 500
thousand. Surveys have put the number as high as 10-25% of
the Muslims supporting the terrorists.

There is no basis for thinking that "1/10 of 1% of the world's Muslim
population are violent terrorists", if one considers that by far the
largest portion of the world's Muslims are not in the Middle East or from
countries that are in conflict with the US. This kind of generalization is
counter-productive to the effort to deal with those people that are
terrorists, Muslim or otherwise.

Neil


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Old November 11th 06, 05:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Really. In places, large percentages of the "street" rolls
out waving flags and burning cars after any terrorists
attack. No Muslim nation actually sends troops to fight
terrorists. The terrorists get supplies from within many
Muslim nations and little or nothing is done to stop that
trade.

You tell me the number, I'd say that they have more than
enough terrorists to bomb every high value target, value
being not the military or industrial value, but the
psychological value, schools, bus stops, movie theaters,
national monuments and even a small town just so everybody
knows there is no safe place, that is what terror is and how
it works.

Bush's error was being too good at stopping attacks on the
USA, the people lost their fear and forgot that we are at
war and the front line is your backyard.



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| Recently, Jim Macklin
posted:
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| There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims on the planet. If only
1/10
| of 1% are violent terrorists, it is still 1 million, 500
| thousand. Surveys have put the number as high as 10-25%
of
| the Muslims supporting the terrorists.
|
| There is no basis for thinking that "1/10 of 1% of the
world's Muslim
| population are violent terrorists", if one considers that
by far the
| largest portion of the world's Muslims are not in the
Middle East or from
| countries that are in conflict with the US. This kind of
generalization is
| counter-productive to the effort to deal with those people
that are
| terrorists, Muslim or otherwise.
|
| Neil
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Old November 11th 06, 01:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
.Blueskies.
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Default Recent Political Change May Positively Affect GA - OT


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message ...
: The whole Muslim terrorist world has declared war on the
: USA.
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Then why didn't we go after Saudi Arabia, or Iran (they did attack our embassy, remember?). Iraq was pretty well
contained according to all the inspections, and that has proven to be true. Plain stupid invasion, could have spent our
resources better in other theatres...


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Old November 11th 06, 05:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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There were all those UN resolutions that authorized invading
Iraq. We can use Iraq as a staging area for the invasion of
Iran. The "official" Saudi government is "friendly" and
have been attacked by the terrorists.

It is like crime in LA, you can find the Cripps and Bloods
or you can just kill all the black people. The black people
are hostage to the gangs [terrorists] and need to be
empowered to stand up to the gangs. The gangs operate as
tribes or even religions, just like the Muslim terrorists
do.

The police can't just arrest any Crip or Blood they see,
they have to have probable cause and evidence. But LA
police do pretty well. Not perfect, but they do catch some
crooks and they do protect some citizens.

The USA can't just nuke every nation with a large and
possibly dangerous Muslim population [well, yes we could but
won't] so the only way to deal with terrorists is to create
a place were the terrorists can be drawn into open combat
and killed. At the same time you work to alter the
attitudes of the other potential terrorists so they don't
get recruited into sending their kids off to the bus with a
bomb.

Congress reduced the size of the military and sets the
man-power levels. Thus we are limited to the number of
troops available. But now we have a Congress that is set to
cut and run so the USA will be attacked here, probably NYC
and DC, then some other more valuable places that will do
more than hurt our feelings and kill a few thousand people.
As bad as 9/11 was, it didn't really hurt the USA in a long
term way except by our reactions to it and the measures
taken to stop it from happening again.

But there are targets that can be attacked that will cause
long term harm to the USA and are well within the present
capabilities of simple terrorism. No need for nukes or
dirty bombs, not even chemicals. Chemicals and weapons of
terror because just the threat makes you alter your
behavior.

Now we have elected a bunch of scared rabbits to Congress.
Remember back to the fall of 2001, President Bush made a
speech to the world, declaring that we were at war, a long
hard and different kind of war. We wouldn't know a lot
about victories as they happened. The Democrats pledged
their support for the war on terror, but that lasted just a
few weeks. RINO Republicans saw personal goals and promoted
themselves over support for the war effort.

The United States could have still lost WWII in December
1944. I'm afraid that the United States has lost the war on
terror on November 7, 2006.



".Blueskies." wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| : The whole Muslim terrorist world has declared war on the
| : USA.
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| Then why didn't we go after Saudi Arabia, or Iran (they
did attack our embassy, remember?). Iraq was pretty well
| contained according to all the inspections, and that has
proven to be true. Plain stupid invasion, could have spent
our
| resources better in other theatres...
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