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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Jessica Taylor" wrote in message ... The reaction of "some" people might be the same. Others might be different. What "might" be is irrelevant. Jay specifically wrote that he posted because of the reactions he knew *would* happen. Not those that he thought *might* happen. Actually he gave two reasons for this post. I believe the first reason was to share the experience, which he thought was pretty unbelievable. The secondary reason was because it was fun to watch the reactions from other posters who are predictable, such as yourself. There was not "would" involved. |
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"Jessica Taylor" wrote in message
... Actually he gave two reasons for this post. I believe the first reason was to share the experience, which he thought was pretty unbelievable. The secondary reason was because it was fun to watch the reactions from other posters who are predictable, such as yourself. There was not "would" involved. Wow...having trouble with the English language too? First of all, the presence of any other reason is irrelevant. If trolling was ANY reason for posting according to Jay, then he's trolling. Having other reasons doesn't take away from the desire to troll. Secondly, the word "would" is an English language construct to describe a future outcome. Given that Jay's reasons (both of them) related to his desire for a future outcome, it is simply *absurd* for you to claim that "there was no 'would' involved" (even if that were a grammatically correct phrase). Pete |
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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Jessica Taylor" wrote in message ... Actually he gave two reasons for this post. I believe the first reason was to share the experience, which he thought was pretty unbelievable. The secondary reason was because it was fun to watch the reactions from other posters who are predictable, such as yourself. There was not "would" involved. correction: should be no "would" involved. Wow...having trouble with the English language too? Not at all, thank you for asking. But I speak several other languages, if you'd prefer another. I hope you don't make any typos! First of all, the presence of any other reason is irrelevant. If trolling was ANY reason for posting according to Jay, then he's trolling. Having other reasons doesn't take away from the desire to troll. And where can we find this new law of trolling that apparently doesn't need any support other than you say so? I found Jay's story entertaining and interesting to read. Since you knew that you thought it was just a troll, why would you respond to a troll? Secondly, the word "would" is an English language construct to describe a future outcome. Among other definitions. Given that Jay's reasons (both of them) related to his desire for a future outcome, it is simply *absurd* for you to claim that "there was no 'would' involved" (even if that were a grammatically correct phrase). I disagree. I also find it amazing that you think Jay has some crystal ball and knew that you *would* post. |
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"Jessica Taylor" wrote in message
... Not at all, thank you for asking. But I speak several other languages, if you'd prefer another. I doubt you'd do any better in some other language. [...] And where can we find this new law of trolling that apparently doesn't need any support other than you say so? It's not a "law of trolling". It's a simple matter of intent. Part of Jay's intent was to troll. That's trolling. Suppose a person mugs another person, killing them in the process. Suppose also that the mugger was looking to a) obtain some property from the other person, and b) murder the other person. Does the fact that they wanted property from the other person negate the fact that their intent was also murder? Do we decide that the mugger was not a murderer, even though they DID intent to murder, simply because they also wanted to obtain property? No, of course not. Your assertion that Jay's other motive somehow obscures this motive to troll is, quite frankly, idiotic. I found Jay's story entertaining and interesting to read. Since you knew that you thought it was just a troll, why would you respond to a troll? I did NOT think it was just a troll, until Jay admitted that it was. In that respect, I admit he was quite successful. There's a true art to trolling, as an effective troll can be accomplished only by hiding the fact that one *is* trolling. Secondly, the word "would" is an English language construct to describe a future outcome. Among other definitions. The other definitions, such as they are, are irrelevant. The "would" with respect to the definition *I* was using is still appropriate, and very much "there". I disagree. I also find it amazing that you think Jay has some crystal ball and knew that you *would* post. No crystal ball is needed when predicting another person's reaction, based on previous experience with that person. It's the reason that, as I said, most of the regulars in this newsgroup are *very* predictable. But in any case, Jay has in so many words admitted that he "knew I would post". I find it remarkable that you would even consider debating that point. Of all the points in this thread, it is the most directly provable, since Jay has written an explicit statement to that effect. Pete |
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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Jessica Taylor" wrote in message ... Not at all, thank you for asking. But I speak several other languages, if you'd prefer another. I doubt you'd do any better in some other language. I do just fine. [...] And where can we find this new law of trolling that apparently doesn't need any support other than you say so? It's not a "law of trolling". It's a simple matter of intent. Part of Jay's intent was to troll. That's trolling. Suppose a person mugs another person, killing them in the process. Suppose also that the mugger was looking to a) obtain some property from the other person, and b) murder the other person. Does the fact that they wanted property from the other person negate the fact that their intent was also murder? Do we decide that the mugger was not a murderer, even though they DID intent to murder, simply because they also wanted to obtain property? No, of course not. Your assertion that Jay's other motive somehow obscures this motive to troll is, quite frankly, idiotic. I found Jay's story entertaining and interesting to read. Since you knew that you thought it was just a troll, why would you respond to a troll? I did NOT think it was just a troll, until Jay admitted that it was. In that respect, I admit he was quite successful. There's a true art to trolling, as an effective troll can be accomplished only by hiding the fact that one *is* trolling. Secondly, the word "would" is an English language construct to describe a future outcome. Among other definitions. The other definitions, such as they are, are irrelevant. The "would" with respect to the definition *I* was using is still appropriate, and very much "there". I disagree. I also find it amazing that you think Jay has some crystal ball and knew that you *would* post. No crystal ball is needed when predicting another person's reaction, based on previous experience with that person. It's the reason that, as I said, most of the regulars in this newsgroup are *very* predictable. But in any case, Jay has in so many words admitted that he "knew I would post". I find it remarkable that you would even consider debating that point. Of all the points in this thread, it is the most directly provable, since Jay has written an explicit statement to that effect. The comparison of sharing one's experience with others in a public forum to mugging, stealing, and murdering is quite impressive, if not eccentric. But you like to toss around words like idiotic, so suit yourself. |
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"Jessica Taylor" wrote in message
... The comparison of sharing one's experience with others in a public forum to mugging, stealing, and murdering is quite impressive, if not eccentric. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that using such a graphic analogy would be so offensive to your tender sensibilities. Try this one instead: Suppose a little girl wants to have a tea party. She has a desire to both a) pour and consume imaginary tea from very tiny, doll-sized cups, and b) engage in friendly, witty conversation with her doll friends. Does the fact that she wants to drink imaginary tea negate the fact that they also want to have a conversation with her dolls? Do we decide that she is not a conversationalist, simply because she is also a drinker of imaginary tea? Why you fail to comprehend this, I can't say. But the fact remains, the exact example is irrelevant. Whether I talk about a murderer or someone attending a tea party, the point is that if a person has two motivations, they are BOTH valid and open for criticism or comment. Having one motivation in no way makes a second motivation irrelevant or nonexistent. But you like to toss around words like idiotic, so suit yourself. Anyone here, even those who rarely agree with me, can attest to the fact that I do *not* "like to toss around words like idiotic". I use them very rarely, and only when they seem clearly applicable. In other words, if the shoe fits... Pete |
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Peter Duniho wrote:
bunch of rambling analogies snipped to conserve bandwidth Don't worry, Pete, no offense taken, although your imaginary dolls and murder/usenet posting analogies are quite humorous to read! I did appreciate the chuckle, so thank you. |
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I think Jessica is really Jay...in e-drag...trying to defend his careless
mouth from another angle. mike "Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... "Jessica Taylor" wrote in message I found Jay's story entertaining and interesting to read. Since you knew that you thought it was just a troll, why would you respond to a troll? I did NOT think it was just a troll, until Jay admitted that it was. In that respect, I admit he was quite successful. There's a true art to trolling, as an effective troll can be accomplished only by hiding the fact that one *is* trolling. |
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mike regish wrote:
I think Jessica is really Jay...in e-drag...trying to defend his careless mouth from another angle. mike "Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... "Jessica Taylor" wrote in message I found Jay's story entertaining and interesting to read. Since you knew that you thought it was just a troll, why would you respond to a troll? I did NOT think it was just a troll, until Jay admitted that it was. In that respect, I admit he was quite successful. There's a true art to trolling, as an effective troll can be accomplished only by hiding the fact that one *is* trolling. Yeah, that's me. You are so smart, tell us some more funny stuff! LoL! You can have another hit off your bong now. |
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I think Jessica is really Jay...in e-drag...trying to defend his careless
mouth from another angle. Dang, Mike, I don't know who Jessica is, either -- but I can guarantee you that there is NO WAY I would spend so much time and effort refuting your silly posts. Actually, let me amend that statement. There is no way I COULD do such a wonderful job refuting your silly posts. Her eloquence, logic, and debate styles are clearly superior to mine, and (although I think she's wasting her breath) I tip my hat to her for trying. She has exposed you for what you are in ways that I could never have dreamt. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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