Thrown out of an FBO...

The Cessna 185 holds 92 gallons of gas. There are times that I like to take
that much fuel, like on floats into the interior of British Columbia. But
for just cruising around, I like to have FUN, and that means a light
airplane for the $200 hamburger.

I know -- we've had this discussion.

Mary and I, however, decided long ago that we simply weren't ever going
to be caught short on fuel. Every year, a number of pilots kill
themselves by running out of gas, perhaps because they were enjoying
the added performance of a light plane -- and we figure that's one risk
we can easily eliminate simply by keeping the tanks full. Since our
plane can easily haul four 200-pounders, plus 84 gallons of fuel, we
always top off the tanks after every flight.

True, it diminishes performance slightly, but (unless we're on fire) we
feel you can't have too much fuel on board...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message True, it diminishes
performance slightly, but (unless we're on fire) we
feel you can't have too much fuel on board...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

Carrying around 300 pounds of extra weight in Iowa (is the "Field of Dreams"
still there?) may be OK, but it will (and does)KILL you in some of the
mountain strips in the west. I forget the exact mathematical relationship
between weight and T/O performance, but weight makes a HUGE difference and
is the easiest to control. I am forever going into Idaho's strips with 1.5
hours of fuel because of density altitude. It just makes a few more fuel
stops necessary.

When you finally come out west you and Mary should stop here on the way.
Flight plan to land here with 1.5 hrs gas.
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/johnsoncreek/
Your 235 would be right at home here and the grass is kept like a golf
course. They even split wood for your campfire.

I know you don't see much difference in the handling of your Cherokee, but
that's because it's tactile flying qualities are low. My Cessna isn't much
better, but reducing weight significantly improves feel. A light airplane is
not only more fun to fly, but also safer. If you REALLY, TRULY were
concerned about fuel you'd install a fuel flow transducer and connect it to
the GPS. Once calibrated, these devices are uncannily accurate.

In the jets we are required to calculate the maximum allowable takeoff
weight for every takeoff and landing, so somebody besides me must think it's
important. We use this:
http://www.ultranav.com/

Carrying around too much fuel by rote is just replacing one hazard with
another.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:42:52 -0800, karl gruber wrote:
When you finally come out west you and Mary should stop here on the way.
Flight plan to land here with 1.5 hrs gas.
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/johnsoncreek/

What's all that white **** on the ground?

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:42:52 -0800, karl gruber wrote:
When you finally come out west you and Mary should stop here on the way.
Flight plan to land here with 1.5 hrs gas.
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/johnsoncreek/

What's all that white **** on the ground?

It looks all black to me...

Yes, the Field of Dreams is still there. I got photos of it this past
summer and placed them at http://www.securitybulletins.com/fod/ . There
were players on the field and a game going on at the time I flew over.

Doug

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:42:52 -0800
"karl gruber" wrote:

Jay,

Carrying around 300 pounds of extra weight in Iowa (is the "Field of Dreams"
still there?) may be OK, but it will (and does)KILL you in some of the

--
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Doug,

great shots...............Thanks,

Karl
I loved that movie!



"Doug Spencer" wrote in message
news:20061112153100.4b350cd4.usenetmail@securitybu lletins.com...
Yes, the Field of Dreams is still there. I got photos of it this past
summer and placed them at http://www.securitybulletins.com/fod/ . There
were players on the field and a game going on at the time I flew over.

Doug

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:42:52 -0800
"karl gruber" wrote:

Jay,

Carrying around 300 pounds of extra weight in Iowa (is the "Field of
Dreams"
still there?) may be OK, but it will (and does)KILL you in some of the

--
For UNIX, Linux and security articles
visit http://SecurityBulletins.com/

karl gruber wrote:

Carrying around 300 pounds of extra weight in Iowa (is the "Field of Dreams"
still there?) may be OK, but it will (and does)KILL you in some of the
mountain strips in the west.

What bites the pilots is not taking the T.O. or landing weight into
account when doing so. Not simply carrying it around.

John

Carrying around 300 pounds of extra weight in Iowa (is the "Field of Dreams"
still there?)

Yep, it's still in Dyersville, about a 2 hour motorcycle ride from
here. Each year when I take my kids cycle camping, we always try to
stop there. Each time we have, there's been a pick-up baseball game in
progress. It's a cool place. (Dyersville is also home of ERTL,
makers of metal die-cast airplanes, tractors and cars. There are a
couple of die-cast toy outlet stores in town that are a lot of fun to
visit.)

When you finally come out west you and Mary should stop here on the way.
Flight plan to land here with 1.5 hrs gas.
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/johnsoncreek/
Your 235 would be right at home here and the grass is kept like a golf
course. They even split wood for your campfire.

Sounds wonderful! Some day...

I know you don't see much difference in the handling of your Cherokee, but
that's because it's tactile flying qualities are low. My Cessna isn't much
better, but reducing weight significantly improves feel. A light airplane is
not only more fun to fly, but also safer. If you REALLY, TRULY were
concerned about fuel you'd install a fuel flow transducer and connect it to
the GPS. Once calibrated, these devices are uncannily accurate.

I believe you. (And we do have the JPI FS450 fuel-flow meter in the
plane. It's a nice gauge...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"