Will the new government have any effect on GA?

Mxsmanic wrote:
Newps writes:


Nobody gave that up.


There are lots of things you can't say without going to jail these
days. All in the name of "safety."

Nonsense.

Newps writes:

Nonsense.

Ask the Secret Service.

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Nonsense.

Ask the Secret Service.

What can't we say today that we *could* say in 2000?

What rights have I lost due to anything done in the War on Terror?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Nonsense.

Ask the Secret Service.


What can't we say today that we *could* say in 2000?

What rights have I lost due to anything done in the War on Terror?

I don't know that you have lost any rights, but I've lost two that I can
think of quickly. I've lost the right to land at Washington National
airport. Luckily, I made one flight in there in the last 90s so I have
that in my logbook. It was a real neat trip. I had to fly in at night
as I couldn't get an IFR reservation before 7:00 PM and this was in the
winter. I had to hold briefly over the city waiting for a hole in the
airline traffic, but the view was priceless and I'd have held another 10
minutes given the chance.

I also lost the right to land at Meigs Field and I never did get in there.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Nonsense.

Ask the Secret Service.


What can't we say today that we *could* say in 2000?

What rights have I lost due to anything done in the War on Terror?

I don't know that you have lost any rights, but I've lost two that I can
think of quickly. I've lost the right to land at Washington National
airport. Luckily, I made one flight in there in the last 90s so I have
that in my logbook. It was a real neat trip. I had to fly in at night
as I couldn't get an IFR reservation before 7:00 PM and this was in the
winter. I had to hold briefly over the city waiting for a hole in the
airline traffic, but the view was priceless and I'd have held another 10
minutes given the chance.

I also lost the right to land at Meigs Field and I never did get in there.

I must have missed that "right" in any of the Constituional amendments.
Seaplanes still welcome..JG

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I must have missed that "right" in any of the Constituional amendments.

The authors of the Consitution tended to think along the lines of
everything being permissible, except that which was prohibited ... and
not the other way around. So it is not necessary to explicitly list
rights in the Constitution, it is only necessary to explicitly list
prohibitions. The only reason rights are listed is to counter
widespread abuses--by people who think it's okay to outlaw anything
that isn't guaranteed by the Constitution.

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What rights have I lost due to anything done in the War on Terror?

The right to fly over your nation's capital. The right to fly past the
Space Shuttle when it is not being launched. The right to carry Napa
and Sonoma wine home in your carry-on baggage. The right to carry a
swiss army knife on an airliner (or anywhere, and forget about it when
you board an airliner). The right to read what you want in a public
library without disclosing that action to the government. The right to
be free in one's homes, telephones, computers, internet, and private
life from search. The right to face your accusers and know the charges
against you.

That's what I could think of in a minute and a half. There's more.

Jose
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What rights have I lost due to anything done in the War on Terror?

The right to fly over your nation's capital. The right to fly past the
Space Shuttle when it is not being launched. The right to carry Napa
and Sonoma wine home in your carry-on baggage. The right to carry a
swiss army knife on an airliner (or anywhere, and forget about it when
you board an airliner).

Let's take the silly ones first:

1. I recently flew over Washington, DC. It was bone-simple.

2. With only a few airworthy space shuttles left -- and a political
climate that makes replacing them impossible -- I see nothing wrong
with restricting the airspace around Cape Canaveral.

3. I'm sure I can buy wine anywhere.

4. Letting people carry weapons on an airliner has proven to be a "bad
thing." I believe this restriction is in the "common sense" category.

The right to read what you want in a public
library without disclosing that action to the government. The right to
be free in one's homes, telephones, computers, internet, and private
life from search. The right to face your accusers and know the charges
against you.

Now on to the meatier examples:

1. The library rule will be overturned. Luckily, it's so unworkable,
in practice, that it is not used.

2. I hadn't heard that US citizens could have their homes searched
without due process. Are you referring to wire tapping overseas phone
calls?

3. I hadn't head that US citizens could be held without charges being
brought.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 14 Nov 2006 07:59:14 -0800, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

4. Letting people carry weapons on an airliner has proven to be a "bad
thing." I believe this restriction is in the "common sense" category.

No, letting only SOME people carry weapons on airliners has proven a
bad thing, letting EVERYONE go armed has not.

Don

DonSideB

Build a man a fire and you keep him warm for a day,
Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

| 4. Letting people carry weapons on an airliner has proven
to be a "bad
| thing." I believe this restriction is in the "common
sense" category.
|
Mr. Dillon, Mr. Dillon, the outlaws are going to rob the
stage when it gets out of town, what should we do?
Take the guns away from the passengers to avoid violence.


A very few people ever carried weapons on airliners, an even
smaller number hijacked airplanes to Cuba. The government
banned guns on airliners. That ban made 9/11 easy and
possible since any weapon, even box cutters [which were
legal at the time] to take over the airplane.

If weapons, per se were evil, why does having an armed air
marshal work?



"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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| What rights have I lost due to anything done in the War
on Terror?
|
| The right to fly over your nation's capital. The right
to fly past the
| Space Shuttle when it is not being launched. The right
to carry Napa
| and Sonoma wine home in your carry-on baggage. The
right to carry a
| swiss army knife on an airliner (or anywhere, and forget
about it when
| you board an airliner).
|
| Let's take the silly ones first:
|
| 1. I recently flew over Washington, DC. It was
bone-simple.
|
| 2. With only a few airworthy space shuttles left -- and a
political
| climate that makes replacing them impossible -- I see
nothing wrong
| with restricting the airspace around Cape Canaveral.
|
| 3. I'm sure I can buy wine anywhere.
|
| 4. Letting people carry weapons on an airliner has proven
to be a "bad
| thing." I believe this restriction is in the "common
sense" category.
|
| The right to read what you want in a public
| library without disclosing that action to the
government. The right to
| be free in one's homes, telephones, computers, internet,
and private
| life from search. The right to face your accusers and
know the charges
| against you.
|
| Now on to the meatier examples:
|
| 1. The library rule will be overturned. Luckily, it's so
unworkable,
| in practice, that it is not used.
|
| 2. I hadn't heard that US citizens could have their homes
searched
| without due process. Are you referring to wire tapping
overseas phone
| calls?
|
| 3. I hadn't head that US citizens could be held without
charges being
| brought.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|