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"Crash Lander" wrote in message
... Homosexual people cry discrimination all the time. I can't understand this. We have bars, and clubs where you go and have a drink with friends. Gay people feel the need to have 'gay bars, and gay clubs'. What's wrong with the bars and clubs that are already there, and what has a bar or club got to do with your sexual preference? Gay bars do not exclude straight customers, just as (for example) sports bars do not exclude non-sports-fans. In contrast, however, a gay couple holding hands or kissing (just doing what many straight couples around them are doing) would, in many straight bars, be kicked out, or even subject to violent attacks. Yet you summarize that state of affairs by saying that most of the intolerance comes from the gay side. You aren't even making a token effort to connect your conclusion to reality! If you seriously believe what you claim to believe, then I propose the following experiment. Visit a liberal US city, go to a gay bar with a female friend, and hold hands with her. See if anyone even notices or comments. Next, visit a "traditional values" town and go to a straight bar with a male friend. Quietly hold hands with him, and report back to us about what happens next. If I'm in a bar having a beer, I'll still drink with you. I don't expect your sexual preference to be a required part of the conversation! A few minutes ago, after you recited a litany of Amos 'n' Andy-like stereotypes about gay people, you expressed your desire to keep "separate". But now you want to go out for drinks? Sexual orientation almost always comes up in casual conversation. You display your sexual orientation every time you mention your wife or girlfriend, or hold hands with her in public. There's no reason for it to be otherwise for gay people. |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. .. A few minutes ago, after you recited a litany of Amos 'n' Andy-like stereotypes about gay people, you expressed your desire to keep "separate". But now you want to go out for drinks? You are twisting my words. I said I wanted to keep my way of life separate to that of a homosexual. That is, the interests and hobbies that conflict. We all have different morals. Why would I want to indulge or condone someones morals that I don't agree with? That doesn't mean I'm going to bash or ignore, or not be social or civil to that person. You support one football team, and I support another. I may not agree with your choice to support that particular team, for whatever reason. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be civil or even friendly with you. It just means I won't rush out to help you support that team. Oz/Crash Lander |
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:27:15 +0000, Crash Lander wrote:
You support one football team, and I support another. I may not agree with your choice to support that particular team, for whatever reason. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be civil or even friendly with you. It just means I won't rush out to help you support that team. In other words, some people like sheep, some like 'roos... And you're flexible... dirty-old-man-grin |
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mike regish wrote:
Which is the exact kind of thinking that makes religion, all religion, a truly dangerous thing. I think your religion of atheism or naturalism or whatever you practice is the most dangerous of all. Matt |
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I don't practice any religion. I AM an athiest. Name one war that was fought
in in the name of athiesm. Not by athiests, but in the name of athiesm. mike "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... mike regish wrote: Which is the exact kind of thinking that makes religion, all religion, a truly dangerous thing. I think your religion of atheism or naturalism or whatever you practice is the most dangerous of all. Matt |
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mike regish wrote:
I don't practice any religion. I AM an athiest. Name one war that was fought in in the name of athiesm. Not by athiests, but in the name of athiesm. Atheism is your religion. And a dangerous one it is. Matt |
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There are no athiests ramming jets into sky scrapers in the name of athiesm.
There are muslims. There are no athiest missionaries preaching against condom use in sub-Saharan Africa resulting in millions of preventable deaths each year. There ARE Christian missionaries doing just that. There are no athiests saying Katrina destroyed New Orleans because there was a lesbian there. There ARE Christian evangelists who say that. I don't "practice" anything. I have NO religion. And I see the damage done by yours. mike "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... mike regish wrote: I don't practice any religion. I AM an athiest. Name one war that was fought in in the name of athiesm. Not by athiests, but in the name of athiesm. Atheism is your religion. And a dangerous one it is. Matt |
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mike regish wrote:
There are no athiests ramming jets into sky scrapers in the name of athiesm. There are muslims. There are no athiest missionaries preaching against condom use in sub-Saharan Africa resulting in millions of preventable deaths each year. There ARE Christian missionaries doing just that. There are no athiests saying Katrina destroyed New Orleans because there was a lesbian there. There ARE Christian evangelists who say that. I don't "practice" anything. I have NO religion. And I see the damage done by yours. If yours were practiced universally, all mankind would spend eternity in Hell, which is much worse in both numbers and magnitude than anything you mentioned above. That is what I call real damage and it occurs from your religion. Matt |
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