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Old November 17th 06, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Doug Palmer
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I would be curious to research when the folks who have had problems with the
UVSP bought their primer, as well as where it was purchased. What I'm
getting at is I wonder if Polyfiber put out a "bad batch" or two and these
peeling, oozing cases are of the same lot. Of those of you out there who
have had issues could you give an estimate of when the product was
purchased, and Who the vendor was. Just a thought...
Doug


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Old November 17th 06, 04:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Marc J. Zeitlin
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Doug Palmer wrote:

..... Of those of you out there who
have had issues could you give an estimate of when the product was
purchased, and Who the vendor was. Just a thought...


2001/2002 from Aircraft Spruce.

Let me ask you a question. Since there are a bazillion different
primers out there, and the ONLY one that anyone has ever complained
about in public with respect to painting composite aircraft is Smooth
Prime, even if the failure rate is relatively low (let's say 5% as a
talking point, although I personally know 5-7 COZY builders who've had
problems with it, so in the COZY community the %age is probably closer
to 10%-20%), why would you want to use a product where the failure
rate is 5% rather than one where the failure rate is 0.01%?

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Old November 17th 06, 02:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Doug Palmer
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Default UV Smooth Prime

It isn't so much an issue of wanting to use so much as I have been using it
to prime surfaces over the last 5 years, the whole fuselage is primed, now
painted with the stuff, and I have two more (expensive) cans of the it and
am deciding whether or not to use them
"Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote in message
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2001/2002 from Aircraft Spruce.

Let me ask you a question. Since there are a bazillion different primers
out there, and the ONLY one that anyone has ever complained about in
public with respect to painting composite aircraft is Smooth Prime, even
if the failure rate is relatively low (let's say 5% as a talking point,
although I personally know 5-7 COZY builders who've had problems with it,
so in the COZY community the %age is probably closer to 10%-20%), why
would you want to use a product where the failure rate is 5% rather than
one where the failure rate is 0.01%?

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Marc J. Zeitlin
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2006



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Old November 19th 06, 02:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Kyle Boatright
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"Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote in message
...
Doug Palmer wrote:

..... Of those of you out there who
have had issues could you give an estimate of when the product was
purchased, and Who the vendor was. Just a thought...


2001/2002 from Aircraft Spruce.

Let me ask you a question. Since there are a bazillion different primers
out there, and the ONLY one that anyone has ever complained about in
public with respect to painting composite aircraft is Smooth Prime, even
if the failure rate is relatively low (let's say 5% as a talking point,
although I personally know 5-7 COZY builders who've had problems with it,
so in the COZY community the %age is probably closer to 10%-20%), why
would you want to use a product where the failure rate is 5% rather than
one where the failure rate is 0.01%?

--
Marc J. Zeitlin
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2006


I agree wholeheartedly about using a reliable system, which would push me
away from SmoothPrime on future projects. I wish there was another system
that filled pinholes as effectively as SmoothPrime. Also, being waterborne
and roller applicable sure is nice.

We've seen failures in the RV community too. I wonder if some people are not
properly mixing the material, or are applying it during periods when the
temperature or humidity levels are having a negative impact on the
polymerization. (It does claim to polymerize, doesn't it?)

KB


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Old November 19th 06, 02:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Doug Palmer
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Default UV Smooth Prime

If I were doing it again, I would go with a high end brand, either Dupont or
PPG, and stick with the same product line across the board: filling primer,
primer/sealer, basecoat, Colors, clears, surface cleaner, tack rags,
reducers. It would save a lot of heartache and worry and it would not cost
that much more. The true cost of painting is all of the time spent
prepping, It will suck if I need to repair bad paint in the future.

Doug


 




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