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Old November 17th 06, 06:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
Lobby Dosser
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Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:10 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:48:28 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:


Sometimes when you get on your Moral High Horse, you're more
entertaining than usual, Dosser.

And I'm right.

As you so oftimes declare yourself to be.


I am right. You care more about a collection of scrap metal.


Nope. I cared about the plane, when it was still intact. The scrap
metal is just now so much junk.


It was a collection of scrap metal before it crashed.


I doubt you'd have had any
objections to firing into a crowd if ordered.

What's the crowd doing? What is the threat assessment?

Nothing that you know, but your superiors say it's OK.


Hardly the case. If I'm firing at a crowd that, for example, coming
to lynch you and your family, I'm at the shooting end of the firearms
involved. I'd just plain Have to know what the crowd is up to, yes?

You, otoh, would make the Fine Moral Distinction, preformed, that
since shooting into a crowd is Always morally objectionable, letting
the crowd lynch you and your family would be Just Fine with you.

See how that works?

Circumstances differ, and the ways in which they differ alter the
decisions to be taken. Firing into a crowd is Not always morally
objectionable. Nor, under some circumstances, would even such a
Morally Upstanding person as your own glorious self find it so.


DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG?



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Old November 17th 06, 06:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
Don Homuth
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:18:58 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:10 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:


I am right. You care more about a collection of scrap metal.


Nope. I cared about the plane, when it was still intact. The scrap
metal is just now so much junk.


It was a collection of scrap metal before it crashed.


Strange -- it appeared to be a fully funtional Hawker Hunter.

DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG?


Would it be right to fire into a crowd coming to lynch you and your
family?
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Old November 17th 06, 08:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
Lobby Dosser
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Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:18:58 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:10 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:


I am right. You care more about a collection of scrap metal.

Nope. I cared about the plane, when it was still intact. The scrap
metal is just now so much junk.


It was a collection of scrap metal before it crashed.


Strange -- it appeared to be a fully funtional Hawker Hunter.


IOW, a collection of scrap metal.


DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG?


Would it be right to fire into a crowd coming to lynch you and your
family?


Just answer the question. That's how this works. Unless you're a lying
sleazeball politician.
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Old November 17th 06, 08:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:29:51 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:18:58 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:



DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG?


Would it be right to fire into a crowd coming to lynch you and your
family?

Just answer the question. That's how this works.


Not when the assumption within the question is Wrong.

Unless you're a lying sleazeball politician.


No lying involved, and as a Politician, no one in My community has
used such terms in any descriptive way.

You have Moral Perfection on your side here, Lobby.

So -- use it and answer My question.

The situation is clear:

The Mob is half a block away, armed and coming to kill You and three
members of Your family. Unless stopped, it'll be here in ten minutes.
It is not open to negotiation on your fate.

The helicopters called to evacuate you and your family are 20 minutes
away, though. Not enough time to get you and yours out before the
confrontation starts.

So -- gotta Decide something right quicklike.

My mission as explained was specifically and explicitly to protect
Murken Lives whenever possible. It is possible for me to do that by
opening fire. There is apparently no other option available at the
moment.

My troops are good folks. I trained them. They are competent shots,
highly disciplined, have sufficient ammunition to last through any
firefight, their positions and fields of fire are in good order. I
trust Them and They trust Me.

The decision is mine to take: Do I open fire into the mob in order to
save the lives of You and Your Family?

Make the call, Dosser.

Use your highly developed sense of Perfect Morality that does not
depend on the situation at hand to do it.

Do I open fire into the crowd or not?

What is Right and what is Wrong here?

Do you know?

How?
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Old November 17th 06, 09:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
Lobby Dosser
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Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:29:51 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:18:58 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:



DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG?

Would it be right to fire into a crowd coming to lynch you and your
family?

Just answer the question. That's how this works.


Not when the assumption within the question is Wrong.


Answer the question.

DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG?

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Old November 17th 06, 09:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
Morgans[_2_]
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and plonk

Take your petty personal bickering to private E-mail. or elsewhere; I (and we,
if I may speak for everyone else) don't care where.

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Old November 18th 06, 12:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
Lobby Dosser
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"Morgans" wrote:

and plonk

Take your petty personal bickering to private E-mail. or elsewhere; I
(and we, if I may speak for everyone else) don't care where.



Gee, I sure hop that's for me. Saves me the trouble of doing it. Assuming
it is, why don't you **** off home. Oh, and you can't speak for Anyone
else.
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Old November 17th 06, 09:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,or.politics,alt.culture.oregon
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plonk
 




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