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That would be competing with themselves.
Well, yes, but that wouldn't be unheard of, would it? Jose -- "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter). for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Say what you want about the FAA in general, but it's hard to say anything
bad about the charting folks. The product they produce is excellent, and they're constantly looking for ways to improve it. You can download the data for free on the net, or get it in printed form for fire-sale prices. If you want to compete with them by reselling either the raw data or the printed material for a profit, they're cool with that too. |
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Roy Smith wrote:
Say what you want about the FAA in general, but it's hard to say anything bad about the charting folks. The product they produce is excellent, and they're constantly looking for ways to improve it. You can download the data for free on the net, or get it in printed form for fire-sale prices. And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. |
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![]() Sam Spade wrote: Roy Smith wrote: Say what you want about the FAA in general, but it's hard to say anything bad about the charting folks. The product they produce is excellent, and they're constantly looking for ways to improve it. You can download the data for free on the net, or get it in printed form for fire-sale prices. And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. That's a good point I never thought about. The biggest difference between the Canadian user fee-based system and the U.S. is the free availablility of charts. This has made possible a number of aviation technologies, such as laptop/PDA based charts and moving maps, Airnav etc and a huge number of online services. As far as I know, such things don't exist in Canada. Charts are very expensive and not readily available. A U.S. pilot who is used to online products will find it very difficult to fly in Canada (I did). |
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In a previous article, "Andrew Sarangan" said:
And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. That's a good point I never thought about. The biggest difference between the Canadian user fee-based system and the U.S. is the free availablility of charts. This has made possible a number of aviation technologies, such as laptop/PDA based charts and moving maps, Airnav etc and a huge number of online services. As far as I know, such things At one time, you could order Canadian digital data from Energy Mines and Resources Canada much like you can from the FAA. That went away when NavCanada took over. don't exist in Canada. Charts are very expensive and not readily available. A U.S. pilot who is used to online products will find it very difficult to fly in Canada (I did). On the other hand, when I forgot to bring my low altitude en-route chart on a trip to Ottawa, I just walked into a map store in downtown Ottawa and bought a new one. Try doing *that* in most US cities. I fly to Canada often enough that I subscribe to the charts from NavCanada. A year's worth of Canada Flight Supplements costs about as much as two would cost you in Canada, or about what one would cost you from Sporties. -- Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/ SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. |
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![]() Paul Tomblin wrote: In a previous article, "Andrew Sarangan" said: And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. That's a good point I never thought about. The biggest difference between the Canadian user fee-based system and the U.S. is the free availablility of charts. This has made possible a number of aviation technologies, such as laptop/PDA based charts and moving maps, Airnav etc and a huge number of online services. As far as I know, such things At one time, you could order Canadian digital data from Energy Mines and Resources Canada much like you can from the FAA. That went away when NavCanada took over. don't exist in Canada. Charts are very expensive and not readily available. A U.S. pilot who is used to online products will find it very difficult to fly in Canada (I did). On the other hand, when I forgot to bring my low altitude en-route chart on a trip to Ottawa, I just walked into a map store in downtown Ottawa and bought a new one. Try doing *that* in most US cities. I fly to Canada often enough that I subscribe to the charts from NavCanada. A year's worth of Canada Flight Supplements costs about as much as two would cost you in Canada, or about what one would cost you from Sporties. I don't fly to Canada enough to justify a subscription. Heck, I don't even have a U.S subscription. I normally don't think about the flight until a couple of days before, and in many cases the night before. As a result I had to fly many times in Canada with expired charts. If I don't have the U.S. charts, all I need is an internet access, even if it is 1am on a Sunday morning. Try that in downtown Ottawa. I know because I lived in Ottawa for several years as a graduate student. |
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![]() "Sam Spade" wrote in message ... Roy Smith wrote: Say what you want about the FAA in general, but it's hard to say anything bad about the charting folks. The product they produce is excellent, and they're constantly looking for ways to improve it. You can download the data for free on the net, or get it in printed form for fire-sale prices. And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. Just you wait until health care is free!!! |
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Sam Spade" wrote in message ... Roy Smith wrote: Say what you want about the FAA in general, but it's hard to say anything bad about the charting folks. The product they produce is excellent, and they're constantly looking for ways to improve it. You can download the data for free on the net, or get it in printed form for fire-sale prices. And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. Just you wait until health care is free!!! So, what does health care have to do with government approach charts? And, why would I want to "just wait?" |
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![]() "Sam Spade" wrote in message ... Matt Barrow wrote: "Sam Spade" wrote in message ... Roy Smith wrote: Say what you want about the FAA in general, but it's hard to say anything bad about the charting folks. The product they produce is excellent, and they're constantly looking for ways to improve it. You can download the data for free on the net, or get it in printed form for fire-sale prices. And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. Just you wait until health care is free!!! So, what does health care have to do with government approach charts? And, why would I want to "just wait?" If you're lame-brained (as you've amply demonstrated), there's nothing I can do to help. Go back and play ****house lawyer. |
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Sam Spade" wrote in message ... Matt Barrow wrote: "Sam Spade" wrote in message ... Roy Smith wrote: Say what you want about the FAA in general, but it's hard to say anything bad about the charting folks. The product they produce is excellent, and they're constantly looking for ways to improve it. You can download the data for free on the net, or get it in printed form for fire-sale prices. And, if/when users fees take root, those NACO charts will no longer be free. Just you wait until health care is free!!! So, what does health care have to do with government approach charts? And, why would I want to "just wait?" If you're lame-brained (as you've amply demonstrated), there's nothing I can do to help. Go back and play ****house lawyer. Why do people have to be such assholes. Now, go back to your gunrack pickup and your high-school drop-out pals. |
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