A deal at Home Depot

Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24) under
my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's Skunk
Works.
We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement concrete
floor
because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground. It is
dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away from
a
canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about 4
miles
away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area 41
years
and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of our
house.
However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing building, we
were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5' of
standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the 100year
flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition exceeded 50%
of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the existing
structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of the 9'
deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area. Our
basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has never
been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in excess of
$1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I don't
know
about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention in my
personal life.

--
Stu Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever increasing
intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that any
significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs of
construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our brilliant
electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media, continues to
elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.

Grrr.

Peter

Need to vote libertarian...


"Peter Dohm" wrote in message ...
: Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24) under
: my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's Skunk
: Works.
: We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement concrete
: floor
: because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground. It is
: dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away from
: a
: canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about 4
: miles
: away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area 41
: years
: and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of our
: house.
: However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing building, we
: were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5' of
: standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the 100year
: flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition exceeded 50%
: of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the existing
: structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of the 9'
: deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
: In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
: currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area. Our
: basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has never
: been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
: BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in excess of
: $1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
: Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I don't
: know
: about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention in my
: personal life.
:
: --
: Stu Fields
: Experimental Helo magazine
: P. O. Box 1585
: Inyokern, CA 93527
: (760) 377-4478
: (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
: (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell
:
: We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever increasing
: intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
: reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that any
: significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs of
: construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our brilliant
: electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media, continues to
: elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.
:
: Grrr.
:
: Peter
:
:
:

True! And need to get enough people doing so to make a difference.


".Blueskies." wrote in message
...
Need to vote libertarian...


"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
...
: Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24)
under
: my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's Skunk
: Works.
: We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement concrete
: floor
: because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground.
It is
: dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away
from
: a
: canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about 4
: miles
: away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area 41
: years
: and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of our
: house.
: However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing building,
we
: were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5' of
: standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the
100year
: flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition exceeded
50%
: of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the existing
: structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of the
9'
: deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
: In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
: currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area.
Our
: basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has
never
: been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
: BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in excess
of
: $1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
: Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I
don't
: know
: about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention in
my
: personal life.
:
: --
: Stu Fields
: Experimental Helo magazine
: P. O. Box 1585
: Inyokern, CA 93527
: (760) 377-4478
: (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
: (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell
:
: We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever
increasing
: intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
: reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that any
: significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs of
: construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our brilliant
: electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media, continues
to
: elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.
:
: Grrr.
:
: Peter
:
:
:

We voted straight Libertarian this election. Further we offered to a
Libertarian talk show host a to start a funding scheme whereby I send in
$10 to the Libertarians and get three other people to do the same. This
process needs someone to keep poking it and making sure the people follow up
with getting the three others. I believe if the Libertarians raised $100
million this way the othe political party would have to take note. Just 10
million people are required and I believe that there are at least that many
out there that are getting tired of what they see coming from our elected
"representatives".
If this process was made to work, I feel I could get a lot more from my $10
than I did from my vote.

--
Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
...
True! And need to get enough people doing so to make a difference.


".Blueskies." wrote in message
...
Need to vote libertarian...


"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
...
: Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24)
under
: my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's
Skunk
: Works.
: We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement
concrete
: floor
: because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground.
It is
: dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away
from
: a
: canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about
4
: miles
: away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area
41
: years
: and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of
our
: house.
: However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing
building,
we
: were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5'
of
: standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the
100year
: flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition
exceeded
50%
: of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the
existing
: structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of
the
9'
: deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
: In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
: currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area.
Our
: basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has
never
: been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
: BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in
excess
of
: $1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
: Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I
don't
: know
: about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention
in
my
: personal life.
:
: --
: Stu Fields
: Experimental Helo magazine
: P. O. Box 1585
: Inyokern, CA 93527
: (760) 377-4478
: (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
: (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell
:
: We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever
increasing
: intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
: reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that
any
: significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs
of
: construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our
brilliant
: electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media,
continues
to
: elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.
:
: Grrr.
:
: Peter
:
:
: